Why UAMCC

jlpressure

jlpressure

JL Pressure Washing
Why did the UAMCC endorse Fort Worth Hinderliter BMP. I hear nothing from the UAMCC for months and months and this is what I get sent to me, that they are endorsing something that if it comes to my town may and probably will take over $40,000 worth of work away from me. I have a process that the Water Authority says is OK now, but it wouldnt be if the water authority adopted FortWorth BMP

WHY UAMCC, you know there is no one shoe fits all. Bullchit, just sick to my stomach. Why dont you be origanal and actually do what contractors want, not just follow in the PWNA footsteps

Crap!! Cancel my membership please as of today and I will get KBK to take down the UAMCC logo from my website as soon as he gets back from vacation
 
I saw that also over on the grime scene.

I agree 100%, there are many ways to be compliant and we don't need groups endorsing things that are not exactly contractor friendly when there are better and easier ways to be compliant.

I wonder what that will do to their membership numbers after this?
 
Clearly they did NOT learn from Celeste's mistake of not asking the membership!
 
Because the PWNA BOD was second Guessing, so they went to the UAMCC to insure they had some national Orgs endorsement.

The UAMCC is just running into another speed bump.

Delco , Rosco , or who ever they are this month or who ever they will be next month have always controled or had some controlling influence.

The reality is that the model of these orgs are needed, if the contractors involved want distributors in control of there Destiny as it relates to water control policy then so be it.

My personal Stance is that each contractor should control and have a plan for there OWN AHJ[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]: Authority Having Jurisdiction.
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jlpressure said:
Why did the UAMCC endorse Fort Worth Hinderliter BMP. I hear nothing from the UAMCC for months and months and this is what I get sent to me, that they are endorsing something that if it comes to my town may and probably will take over $40,000 worth of work away from me. I have a process that the Water Authority says is OK now, but it wouldnt be if the water authority adopted FortWorth BMP

WHY UAMCC, you know there is no one shoe fits all. Bullchit, just sick to my stomach. Why dont you be origanal and actually do what contractors want, not just follow in the PWNA footsteps

Crap!! Cancel my membership please as of today and I will get KBK to take down the UAMCC logo from my website as soon as he gets back from vacation
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I have been involved with the UAMCC since the beggining. I have seen alot in the past and was promised a new org last year would emerge. Looks like the same old crap starting again. what happened to For The Contractors By The Contractors ? The membership should had had a vote on this. Since the BOD wants to run the UAMCC and make ALL the decisions without input from the members, they can do it without me or my money.......
 
Lightning Gene said:
I have been involved with the UAMCC since the beggining. I have seen alot in the past and was promised a new org last year would emerge. Looks like the same old crap starting again. what happened to For The Contractors By The Contractors ? The membership should had had a vote on this. Since the BOD wants to run the UAMCC and make ALL the decisions without input from the members, they can do it without me or my money.......
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Gene that's every members rights.
 
It would be nice to see an organization the would not try to adopt a 'national plan' unless the plan was to give us all tons o money for sitting in our chairs by the pool. They really should keep their focus on trying to make the contractors job easier with less hoops. I would like to see them working to make the regulations less restrictive and support the contractors in keeping it that way.

They should concentrate their efforts on making a one stop resource to find the information for the contractor and help in situations where the local laws and rules are created in such a manner that they put companies out of business. The use of reclaim equipment should only be in cases of extreme pollution, where it is a sales tool or it increases your performance. It should not be forced because someone wants to sell more equipment. We are not the polluters we are the environmental clean up specialists-we prevent pollution. If you want to develop something develop the procedures for proper washing techniques to avoid the issues. (Oh wait we have those called certification courses). And yes I do sell and have the equipment myself which I use, by choice, for particular jobs.
 
F the orgs. Took down my UAMCC logo from the website and sticker off the truck, is it safe to assume they aren't doing refunds either?
 
Paul Kassander said:
It would be nice to see an organization the would not try to adopt a 'national plan' unless the plan was to give us all tons o money for sitting in our chairs by the pool. They really should keep their focus on trying to make the contractors job easier with less hoops. I would like to see them working to make the regulations less restrictive and support the contractors in keeping it that way.

They should concentrate their efforts on making a one stop resource to find the information for the contractor and help in situations where the local laws and rules are created in such a manner that they put companies out of business. The use of reclaim equipment should only be in cases of extreme pollution, where it is a sales tool or it increases your performance. It should not be forced because someone wants to sell more equipment. We are not the polluters we are the environmental clean up specialists-we prevent pollution. If you want to develop something develop the procedures for proper washing techniques to avoid the issues. (Oh wait we have those called certification courses). And yes I do sell and have the equipment myself which I use, by choice, for particular jobs.
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Preach it Brother Paul.....
 
Thanks for all of your input. I would invite every critic to read the BMP and then tell me where the fault is. The UAMCC's past past administration was instrumental in helping write and develop this document.

Please comment constructively, but please refrain from personal attacks.

Like it or not the world and the industry is changing.

https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1b51WDkJSwTY5hCaxSxAvL77b9qCYmqCqZxtYQXkTkLs
 
Yes Robert H is the past administration, the one that started the UAMCC and I think he started the PWNA too and yes he wrote the BMP. Mike I don't understand why the UAMCC is endorsing a one size fits all BMP. If the present UAMCC wanted to help, couldnt they have fought for an even Less strict BMP. I really don't want to hear you can comply with the BMP for $300 as Robert has said in the past. I sure am not going to get a KIDDIE pool to cover drains as he said could be done.

Times are changing, why are we using a BMP that is outdated and to strict?

I havent read the BMP in several months, but I wouldnt have be able to do some garages this year by that BMP. Nothing down the drain but rain is BS

Mike, I as past Tran Team member agreed to bring Robert on as Enviro consultant. I will admit I did it because I knew very LITTLE about BMP's and just assumed Robert the best choice, but we didnt endorse his BMP nationwide. He is good to consult with, of course, but many more should have been consulted with including membership before putting this out there to the nation.

I urge you, the UAMCC to rescind the endorsement and fight for even less strict regs.
 
Mike, the problems with the proposed BMPS's have been listed by Tony on this very board. Everyone knows what is wrong with them. The fact that an org that is supposed to be representing the contractor allowed someone such as this person to promote his sales packet in the form of a BMP to it's members is unacceptable. This BMP has nothing to do with saving the planet, hugging a tree or other feel good things. It is soley to turn a profit by forcing gov't eyes toward contractors and forcing them to buy reclaim when it is not needed.
 
Mike the BMP has things in it that contractors would not ever want to surrender to out of the Gate. Second in Charlotte after they read these if anyone can recall they wanted to reclaim House washing. They stopped it, it wasn't Robert Efforts it was the coalition of people that gathered. Thank goodness for the UAMCC & PWNA , Carlos efforts here despite my opinions at the time along with Celeste where instrumental in Stopping that.


Mike as a leader in the industry of and National Association your primary responsibility is to protect the welfare of the members. Your an educated Man, I don't have to tell you that simple small things in this BMP and the Slides Robert uses are more likely to tip Engineers with these Citys off to harsh and more restrictive practice.

Its not that we do not need BMP's, we need the right BMP.

Each and every Week we propose plans with our proposals to win bidding. We start with evaluation of the job and from there we form a Plan for water control.

You may think this possibly has nothing to do with your industry or that containment for Grease is easy. This is going to affect us all in Major ways. We all know this and we do not need to start off even close to this.

All the verb-age pollution and talking about Polluting is not correct. Its talked about like that because The person who wrote these sales PDF for the city Sells equipment.

If the BMP was drastically modified and the Chair persons materials to the city where supervised and represented by a committee that was actually involved this would be a better solution.

Houston was intro to these Same BMP's, now Robert thinks Houston is also ridiculous along with Mike Hinderliter. Of course last month there was no problems. Maybe I'm still not sure how your representation is looking at Houston.

There was no concern for Houston last month, now he wants your endorsement. Will this change next month?

My concern is more for the representation, interpretation of these is everything.

Michael T said:
Thanks for all of your input. I would invite every critic to read the BMP and then tell me where the fault is. The UAMCC's past past administration was instrumental in helping write and develop this document.

Please comment constructively, but please refrain from personal attacks.

Like it or not the world and the industry is changing.

https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1b51WDkJSwTY5hCaxSxAvL77b9qCYmqCqZxtYQXkTkLs
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