5 GPM vs. 8 GPM

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I have finally sold my SCAG, and am now in the market for a used hot water skid. I was originally thinking I wanted an 8 GPM machine, but a couple of distributors have really tried to steer me away from that, and they say a 5 GPM would be less of a headache for someone with a one man operation, and low budget. Apparently, 5 GPM machines are lower maintenance, and much cheaper to repair. Plus, using 3/8 hose is frowned upon with anything more than 7 GPM, according to Jerry, and a few other guys that know what they are talking about. 1/2'' hose would be a pain to work with. I guess going with 5 GPM would sacrifice a little bit of productivity, but if the PITA factors of 8 GPM are too much, maybe it would be worth it. Either way, it will be a huge step up from my GX390 cold water machine. Any input?
 
Very true Greg 8 or higher can be faster however there are plenty of good quality 5.56 machines out there.Josh calll Bwilson and really look at the largo brand top notch machines very well priced as well.Glad you finally get to buy a commercial washer to start your venture right.
 
I'm in a similar upgrade position and also unsure what to do because I'm just looking to stick with cold water and keep doing primarily house washing. Should I go 5 or 8? All opinions welcome. Also I would be unlikely to want to go to 1/2" so I guess that factors in for the 8gpm.

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If all your doing is washing houses the psi drop using 3/8 hose isnt going to bother you. I run 8gpm through 3/8 hose because we dont want the extra weight of 1/2 hose. it sacrifices some psi but we dont mind.

That's as I suspected Greg, thanks.

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My 0.02 cents, with some of the newer products available today and the little experience I have.

If I had to get a hot water skid today I suggest it be a 7 to 6 gpm pump with a 4000 psi and over head rating. Over size the gas engine if possible, or using at least this HP formula for pump ((gpm x psi )/1460) x 1.5, .... a 20" minimum coil , 120 volt burner (really just for the added convenience to plug in small tools or run lights, but if 12 volt was selected ensure the largest amp charging/alternator spec of the engine)
 
Cameron if you looked at the right places you could find a 5..5 skid unit with heat that may or will open new doors for your business for less than a 8 gpm cold water unit.
 
We've started using 1/2" hose with our 9gpm for concrete sidewalk cleaning because we need the pressure to clean effectively. But use 3/8" on building washes, as Greg said, the pressure drop is nothing to worry about there and it is easier to work with.

In terms of 5.5 vs. 8+ gpm - go with the 5.5 to start. The Largo machine is a GREAT machine with a good heat rise...

Glad you got the SCAG sold and can upgrade your pressure washing equipment!
 
What services are you offering? I would never use hot water on houses for house washing, too many chances of damaging property with hot water and I have never needed hot water to clean any house or building yet.

Do you really even need hot water? Bubble gum removal, degreasing, etc...?

Are you cleaning large areas of concrete so that you have a real need for 8gpm?

On the other side, 8gpm will shoot water up higher than 5gpm or 5.5gpm for house or building washing, usually 10-20 feet higher that I remember. You can rinse faster with 8gpm, you can run larger surface cleaners with 8gpm like the 24" up to 36" surface cleaners where 5.5 or 5gpm stay under 24" surface cleaners or you will walk so slow you will be aggravated each time you use it, been there and done that.

If you are only house washing, working by yourself and water supply is questionable at some houses, I would probably stay with 5.5gpm, that is how I started out and had no problem, just took forever on huge driveways, drive-thru lanes, shopping center sidewalks and parking lots (I started out with hot water as I already had a couple commercial accounts).

You can always buy another machine like an 8gpm cold that you can put on your trailer later on if needed, they are usually about $3000 to $3500 new and don't take up that much room when needed or if you have the place you are purchasing from build the hot water skid (if needed), spend some more money and have them put a larger engine so that you can change out the 5.5gpm pump for an 8gpm pump later on and then have them adjust the burner (make sure you get the right coil and burner to do this later on if you decide to go this route), this is just another option, or just get an 8gpm hot water skid.

There are many choices available, just depends on what you are doing now and want to do soon.

Good luck.
 
Both my machines are 8GPM, one is hot/cold the other is cold only. 8GPM is great for speeding up rinsing houses and concrete. I will tell you that on most concrete cleaning like gum removal, edging out, etc, even cleaning brick, I use 5GPM tips. The over flow just goes back into my tank.

If you are just starting out, I would suggest, if you can afford it, to go with a 5GPM hot/cold skid. It will do everything you need it to do rsidential wise, and give you the ability to take on some small to medium size commercial jobs if you decide to head that way.

Feel free to call if you would like to discuss.
 
What services are you offering? I would never use hot water on houses for house washing, too many chances of damaging property with hot water and I have never needed hot water to clean any house or building yet.

Do you really even need hot water? Bubble gum removal, degreasing, etc...?

Are you cleaning large areas of concrete so that you have a real need for 8gpm?

On the other side, 8gpm will shoot water up higher than 5gpm or 5.5gpm for house or building washing, usually 10-20 feet higher that I remember. You can rinse faster with 8gpm, you can run larger surface cleaners with 8gpm like the 24" up to 36" surface cleaners where 5.5 or 5gpm stay under 24" surface cleaners or you will walk so slow you will be aggravated each time you use it, been there and done that.

If you are only house washing, working by yourself and water supply is questionable at some houses, I would probably stay with 5.5gpm, that is how I started out and had no problem, just took forever on huge driveways, drive-thru lanes, shopping center sidewalks and parking lots (I started out with hot water as I already had a couple commercial accounts).

You can always buy another machine like an 8gpm cold that you can put on your trailer later on if needed, they are usually about $3000 to $3500 new and don't take up that much room when needed or if you have the place you are purchasing from build the hot water skid (if needed), spend some more money and have them put a larger engine so that you can change out the 5.5gpm pump for an 8gpm pump later on and then have them adjust the burner (make sure you get the right coil and burner to do this later on if you decide to go this route), this is just another option, or just get an 8gpm hot water skid.

There are many choices available, just depends on what you are doing now and want to do soon.

Good luck.

Just doing house washing so far, but that is mostly because that's all I can do with the equipment I have. I would love to get into washing commercial buildings and flatwork. That's what I want hot water for. Also, I have occasionally run into times where hot water would have been useful on residential concrete. When it has not been washed in a few years, or there is oil stains.

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Call Bwilson talk to him about the Largo machine would be a perfect fit for your needs.Boy scout motto Its better to have it an not need it than to need it and not have it.If you stay in the pressure washing business long enough you will need heat one day.
 
Both my machines are 8GPM, one is hot/cold the other is cold only. 8GPM is great for speeding up rinsing houses and concrete. I will tell you that on most concrete cleaning like gum removal, edging out, etc, even cleaning brick, I use 5GPM tips. The over flow just goes back into my tank.

If you are just starting out, I would suggest, if you can afford it, to go with a 5GPM hot/cold skid. It will do everything you need it to do rsidential wise, and give you the ability to take on some small to medium size commercial jobs if you decide to head that way.

Feel free to call if you would like to discuss.

Thanks a lot Doug.

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Look if you're not doing large amounts of concrete day in and day out this 1/2 hose talk is worthless. True, you can do the same work with 5 gpm as you can 8 gpm, and the same work with 2 gpm, 3 gpm, & 4 gpm. Name of the game is work speed here, faster you are more money you make.

We started with a 5 gpm machine, yes good to start off with, and one of the few mistakes I made when we started.

The cost between the two is only a few hundred dollars.

Just received our 5th 8 gpm unit in Dec. and adding another in 4 months.

Good Luck!
 
If you can afford the 8 then go for it. I would much rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. When I upgraded to an 8 gpm I was beyond happy do to the fact I could run a much larger surface cleaner and rinse much faster. Good luck on your purchase and congrats on the sale of the mower. Oh and by the way, please tell me you didn't sale that mower to Ronnie "Horder" Gilliam. Lol
 
If you can afford the 8 then go for it. I would much rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. When I upgraded to an 8 gpm I was beyond happy do to the fact I could run a much larger surface cleaner and rinse much faster. Good luck on your purchase and congrats on the sale of the mower. Oh and by the way, please tell me you didn't sale that mower to Ronnie "Horder" Gilliam. Lol

Lol. Sure looks that way doesn't it???
 
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