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dsloan

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Just wondering if someone might have the mix formula for Apple cider recipe for 35 gallon mix. I searched and only saw 100 gallon mix so far. Thanks
 
dsloan said:
Just wondering if someone might have the mix formula for Apple cider recipe for 35 gallon mix. I searched and only saw 100 gallon mix so far. Thanks
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Divide the recipe by 3. It will get you close enough.
 
or multiply by .35 ???
 
Or forget Apple cider and go with a 50/50 mix. Or maybe a 60/40.
 
my mix is basically 50/50. some may think that i use up too much 12.5 that way but i don't. i can give the roof a light or heavy spray according to what i need. i have washed too many roof with a weaker mix and ended up having to reapply again. i do add sufactants and my own little "goodies". the nice thing about thing about your roof cleaning mix is that you can experiment with it to see what works for you. your mix and mine may have slight differences but they both get the job done.

good luck with your mix,

rando
 
This is not rocket science, a lot of times just basic math.

Ok, I have a formula for 100 gallons but I only have a 30 gallon tank so what do I do?????

Don't over-complicate things.

Go back to the beginning of the roof cleaning section and read what other people have done, tried and see what works for them and spend a little time with your mix and see what works in your area.

You might be pleasantly suprised to see that with a lot of reading here, you will end up spending a lot less money and time to do the job.
 
Scott D. said:
Or forget Apple cider and go with a 50/50 mix. Or maybe a 60/40.
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Heck, why stop at 60/40 ?
Go to 70/30 !
Even 80/20 ??

We clean TILE Roofs at 40 to 50 percent SH to Water.
True, the smaller 12 volt pumps need a little stronger mix, since they lack flow compared to the bigger pumps.
Especially when compromised by small hose ;)

But when you have SEEN the damage caused to shingle roofs by strong mixtures like I have, you may want to re think these strong mixtures ?
Not to mention a greater chance of paint/landscape damage ?

It is all about FLOW
More of a weak solution is safer for roofs and property then less of an overly strong solution.
But you must be properly EQUIPPED to deliver more of the solution.

THAT is the "secret" :)
 
rando said:
my mix is basically 50/50. some may think that i use up too much 12.5 that way but i don't. i can give the roof a light or heavy spray according to what i need. i have washed too many roof with a weaker mix and ended up having to reapply again. i do add sufactants and my own little "goodies". the nice thing about thing about your roof cleaning mix is that you can experiment with it to see what works for you. your mix and mine may have slight differences but they both get the job done.

good luck with your mix,

rando
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Another problem Rando is we all get different SH !
30 percent of what I get may be as strong as 50 percent of what YOU get ?
You MUST experiment whith what works for YOU :)
We go for a 5 minute cleaning effect.
We find that safest, overall.
If we spray, and the roof is not clean in 5 minutes, our mix is weak.
IF we spray, and it cleans right NOW, we feel this is too strong.
We sometimes wet down the roof with water, and then spray!
OR, add some water, depending on the NEXT roof we have to do.
Lighter color/gray roofs like stronger chemicals.
As do steeper ones, but we emulsify for them ;)
 
I disagree with that, I have done roofs with only 2gpm and other than taking longer to do a roof, it did a good job with the regular mix. Now I use the Bandit with 6gpm but restrict the FLOW with smaller nozzles so I am not flooding the roof.

I used to "Flood" the roofs with the Bandit and I admit I burned some grass and had a hard time with helpers keeping up with me and I used up a lot of chems.

After talking with Larry all the time and he suggesting for a while to use smaller nozzles and watching Scott D. do a roof with the smaller nozzles, it made sense to slow down the FLOW some to a more manageable amount.

The Bandit is 6gpm and 150 psi which will out-shoot most other systems out there but that is not the job needed for roofs, you need less flooding and more of a "misting" instead of a high amount of FLOW.

I run 1/2" hose and it is perfect to spray up about 50' or 60' high but that is not needed for roofs unless there is a peak that you can't walk up to.

I got the smaller nozzles from Bob at PressureTek and did a roof last Monday and I used WAY, WAY less chemicals than I would have, got less runoff, the ground guy was keeping up no problem and finished that roof faster than I have ever cleaned a roof. All of those benefits of less FLOW onto the roof using smaller nozzles to control that FLOW. What works for some might not work for others, just my opinion but that is just me.

There are many ways to do the job, people just need to find out what works best for them and their budget.
 
Christopher said:
I disagree with that, I have done roofs with only 2gpm and other than taking longer to do a roof, it did a good job with the regular mix. Now I use the Bandit with 6gpm but restrict the FLOW with smaller nozzles so I am not flooding the roof.

I used to "Flood" the roofs with the Bandit and I admit I burned some grass and had a hard time with helpers keeping up with me and I used up a lot of chems.

After talking with Larry all the time and he suggesting for a while to use smaller nozzles and watching Scott D. do a roof with the smaller nozzles, it made sense to slow down the FLOW some to a more manageable amount.

The Bandit is 6gpm and 150 psi which will out-shoot most other systems out there but that is not the job needed for roofs, you need less flooding and more of a "misting" instead of a high amount of FLOW.

I run 1/2" hose and it is perfect to spray up about 50' or 60' high but that is not needed for roofs unless there is a peak that you can't walk up to.

I got the smaller nozzles from Bob at PressureTek and did a roof last Monday and I used WAY, WAY less chemicals than I would have, got less runoff, the ground guy was keeping up no problem and finished that roof faster than I have ever cleaned a roof. All of those benefits of less FLOW onto the roof using smaller nozzles to control that FLOW. What works for some might not work for others, just my opinion but that is just me.

There are many ways to do the job, people just need to find out what works best for them and their budget.
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I have had several conversations with Owens Corning Tech Services, as well as GAF and Certainteed.
The ARMA Bulleting advises a WEAK solution of bleach/TSP for a REASON.
They could easily have suggested straight bleach, but choose instead to strengthen the weak bleach with TSP.
Back YEARS ago, I started out with a small Shurflo, 1.8 GPM at 100 PSI.
I used strong mix, and "misted" it on with small tip.

I SAW firsthand, when I returned years later to re clean these roofs, what this does to roofs.
 
Apple Roof Cleaning said:
I have had several conversations with Owens Corning Tech Services, as well as GAF and Certainteed.
The ARMA Bulleting advises a WEAK solution of bleach/TSP for a REASON.
They could easily have suggested straight bleach, but choose instead to strengthen the weak bleach with TSP.
Back YEARS ago, I started out with a small Shurflo, 1.8 GPM at 100 PSI.
I used strong mix, and "misted" it on with small tip.

I SAW firsthand, when I returned years later to re clean these roofs, what this does to roofs.
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Like I mentioned, I use a "Regular" mix and try to "Mist" it onto the roofs, not a "Strong" mix.

I guess you missed my point about "Flow", you don't need to flood the roof, just a good coating or enough to do the job. I did not mention anything about a "Strong" mix.

You don't need "Strong" mixes on most roofs, just the strength that is needed but what you don't want to do is "Flood" the roof, that is when you have problems with burning grass like I have done a couple times.
 
Christopher said:
Like I mentioned, I use a "Regular" mix and try to "Mist" it onto the roofs, not a "Strong" mix.

I guess you missed my point about "Flow", you don't need to flood the roof, just a good coating or enough to do the job. I did not mention anything about a "Strong" mix.

You don't need "Strong" mixes on most roofs, just the strength that is needed but what you don't want to do is "Flood" the roof, that is when you have problems with burning grass like I have done a couple times.
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Here is what I Thought I was replying to.
Scott D. said:
Or forget Apple cider and go with a 50/50 mix. Or maybe a 60/40.
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We have been pretty busy, with lots going on, here in my office.
Sometimes, my posts are typed between custoimer calls, and questions being asked of me here.

As far as "flooding" a roof goes, I mean applying enough solution to cover the roof.
There is a fine line between coverage, and excessive run off.
Come to Tampa sometime Chris, and clean a roof with me :)
I BET our ways are more similar then either of us thinks ?
I think the terminology may be different, but methods pretty much the same.
 
Apple Roof Cleaning said:
Here is what I Thought I was replying to.


We have been pretty busy, with lots going on, here in my office.
Sometimes, my posts are typed between custoimer calls, and questions being asked of me here.

As far as "flooding" a roof goes, I mean applying enough solution to cover the roof.
There is a fine line between coverage, and excessive run off.
Come to Tampa sometime Chris, and clean a roof with me :)
I BET our ways are more similar then either of us thinks ?
I think the terminology may be different, but methods pretty much the same.
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next time I am down there I am going to look up Chris and Larry to see how the pro's do it!!!
 
Al Patterson said:
next time I am down there I am going to look up Chris and Larry to see how the pro's do it!!!
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I really think that almost ALL the folks on this forum are TRUE Pro's Al.
And they represent the cream of the crop in their respective areaS.
Larry, Scott, Ken, Tom, Chris, Nick, Kory, and everyone else is here trying to be the BEST they can be :)

None of us really cleans a roof :eek:
The chemical does all the work.

We just apply the chemical.

Now, HOW we apply the chemical, that is another story. ;)
But It really don't matter, as long as the chemical gets applied, the roof is clean, and plants and paint aint compromised :)

Proof is in the pictures :D
And ALL of us turn out beautiful work that we are proud of.

I REALLY truly feel 5/8 hose is best, but Larry can STILL be my friend, even though he uses smaller hose.

I say what works for me, you say what works for you.

It's all good :)
 
You and Larry line up some roof washes, I will be there for the Tampa meeting/get together/networking event/whatever it is called....I do not know. hahahahahahaha

I will check out how you guys clean the roofs.

Most of the pictures that come out of Florida roof cleaning look good.
 
Christopher said:
You and Larry line up some roof washes, I will be there for the Tampa meeting/get together/networking event/whatever it is called....I do not know. hahahahahahaha

I will check out how you guys clean the roofs.

Most of the pictures that come out of Florida roof cleaning look good.
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What??? I gotta work? :confused: I was planning on taking that weekend off! LOL... Chris is already planning a live Roof Cleaning. Just don't blink or you will miss it. His guys can spray down a Tile or Shingle Roof pretty fast.
 
I hear you have a smaller hose than chris?
 
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