Are you certified?

What about your certification?

  • I am or plan to become Delco certified

    Votes: 3 5.0%
  • I am or plan to become IKECA certified

    Votes: 14 23.3%
  • I am or plan to become PWNA certified

    Votes: 18 30.0%
  • I am or plan to become Phil Ackland certified

    Votes: 8 13.3%
  • I am or plan to become CHDCA certified

    Votes: 5 8.3%
  • I do not plan to become certified until required

    Votes: 13 21.7%
  • I do not plan to become certified ever

    Votes: 11 18.3%

  • Total voters
    60
And even with the Auto exam we still have poor driver and they still die in auto accidents. The IKECA process at least limits exposure to those who have knowledge of skills as related to OSHA-NFPA96 and general knowledge. These members must comply with on going training and education so that they can maintain membership in IKECA.:) <O:p</O:p
 
Good analogy Matt. This is why I think all certifiing bodies should be nothing more than schools. AHJ should come up with licensing requirements that test you not only on knowledge but also ability just like a drivers license. And, just like a drivers license if you screw up enough your license is revoked. Its very obvious that the certifieng bodies are either unwilling or unable to hold the people they have certified up to the standards they have set (which are good by the way). And because of that being certified has no meaning other than assuring the owner that a person can pass a written test.
 
You are correct, I suppose that someone who has no practical knowledge (field experience), could study enough to sit for, and, pass the exam without ever having seen an exhaust system. Similarly, a "professed" service contractor could get certified, sell & schedule work, and, invoice without ever even visiting the site, given the wrong circumstances. Unfortunately, I don't know how to thwart that kind of dishonesty without making the priviledge of IKECA membership/certification cost some huge multiple of what it costs now so that we could support all of the outside "policemen" that we would need to absolutely prove compliance on a case by case basis. Dishonesty is difficult to predict or, to preempt. No matter how much time one puts toward "keeping the crooks at bay", honest people also have others things to do while crooks have all day to work on how they're going to stick it to you.

IKECA, it's members and programs, on the whole, represent a twenty year long collaborative effort toward the improvement and recognition of the Grease Exhaust System Cleaning Industry. While no collection of people is perfect, including us, no other collection of people has done more to move the industry forward as defined by standards, practices, and, public awareness. Though we cannot guarantee the performance or honesty of our members, we can do (and have done) more than any other collection of like minded people to increase public awareness so that those who rely on us for these critical public safety services know the difference between "rag & tag" and complete system cleaning. If the people who are actually paying for the service aren't concerned enough to fulfill their responsibility to inspect their equipment before they separate themselves from their money, it is difficult for us, as an organization, to see why it should be so important for us to do it for them. Otherwise, as is the American way, competitors continue to do a fine job of weeding out the bad actors, one "rag & tag" at a time. In other words, if it weren't for so many crappy providers, the only value statement that we could make would be regarding price. When that day comes, I'll trade my scraper for a mail carrier's bag, they'll be more money in it.
 
FYI.
Delco, PWNA and Phil Ackland Certification are all the same. They are all written by Phil and under his protocol.
 
They are the same but since the PAC test is non-proctored Boston will not accept it . I understand he is going to correct that in the near future and has submitted corrections to Boston to get thier OK for his tests. The CHDCA test is also a mirror of the PAC/PWNA/IKECA exam as well.
 
We recently joined IKECA. I see this as the wave of the future. I was very impressed with the program in Vegas. I am studying for the CECS-CESI exam right now. The amount of collective experience is mind boggling. Barney, Nelson, Don, Jack just to name a few. I am really looking forward to the next meeting.
 
Well done, Johnny!
 
Once I was certified I would hope they would update the profile to include me.

Matt...Obama cookies in the avitar ? Do they go well with the Kool-Aid?
 
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