Down Streaming Crazy Idea

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countryboy20

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Would it work if i put my DS injector right behind my gun and then ran a chem all the way back to the truck on a hose reel were i attached to my chem tank? the reason for this would be to cut down on the wear and tear on the PW hose and i would be able to adjust the flow quicker insted of having to walk back and turn the knob to draw more chem and then i could run a long hose on my reel like 300' plus. can a DS draw chem through 200' plus of small hose? would a booster pump be need to get the chem trought the hose and just use the injector to control the %?
 
Why not just get an x-jet? What types of chemicals are you using causing so much wear and tear?

Also how about a signature?
 
Chems may be hard on the hoses, but I think down streaming is the way to go. I would keep it set up the way you have it now and make sure that you rinse out your hoses and not let chems sit in them for a long time.

Going through hoses is just part of the cost of doing business. The time savings of down streaming using your current method should far outweigh the cost of ruining a hose from time to time.

Just my opinion.....good luck
 
better on the sig? just trying to use less chemicals and make the work go by quicker and not cutting on quality. if my idea holds water then this would also allow for more than one person that could shoot chems by just pulling the injector off and passing it off. and you dont have to waste the chem that would normally be in a 200' hose when you need to switch over to wash.
 
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IndyExterior said:
Why not just get an x-jet? What types of chemicals are you using causing so much wear and tear?

Also how about a signature?
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Are we for real about wear & Tear on Hose?

I know you know that a Down Steamer by-passes the Pump.

I hate X-jets personally, i think they are somewhat dangerous also in the field. I know Alot of guys love them, i'll stick to down streaming chems. Safe and spreads Chems fast. Simple turn of a Knob and I got chems.

Get a Smaller motor 5.5 horse to push the chems. How many feet of hose will be determined on how much volume you want. 1/4 line will push chems further. 3/8 line is pushing 200ft.
 
If you can do it maneuverability wise, you could attach injector at last 50 or 100 foot section of hose.
 
How do you downstream and rinse while leaving chems in the hose?Are you using a machine to apply chems and one to rinse?If not as soon as you start to rinse the chems get flushed.

If you are worried about the chems in the line just use them,it's called pulling the soap tip or twisting the knob on the dual wand however you switch over before you get to the end of the soaping and just continue spraying the chems to the end.

The whole 200 ft of chem hose thing is a bad idea imo.It's a huge pain in the butt.Imagine a chem hose that is going to hold up to being pulled on and dragged around.
 
That is waht I was going to suggest William. Why would you want to put the injector at the gun and run a seprate hose 200' for the chems. You would would be pulling 2 hoses instead of one. But like Willam said if you wanted to put it at the gun, just use 2-3' of hose and a gallon jug or a 5er. Same concept as downstreaming but kinda like an xjet. But how would I know I live in Oklahoma LOL
 
ok i see were you are coming from so no go on that idea. but a mod of the above may be usefull. if you cary a sprayer pack on your back and plumbed a line into it and then hooked a DS into it it would prevent all the listed drawbacks to DS and it seams like the best answer if you dont mind wearing 30lb a house wash on you back? and cons let me know.
 
offdutyfireman said:
The simple solution is to downstream like the rest of the professionals do. A backpack full of bleach is not my idea of a good time.
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Listen to the others. It's always good to see someone trying to improve but you're trying to reinvent the wheel.

DS does everything one needs unless you need very high concentrations of de-greaser or maybe aluminum brightener when fleet washing. House washing certainly never calls for a higher concentration than DS can provide. DS does it all right at the gun with no need to go back to the trailer. If it's not you've got something setup incorrectly.
 
ok i am sold then will stick to what works and not try to redesign the wheel. i do have a idea for a week that would be shapes like.. nvm. thanks for the help guys. what DS you have and works with a strong mix? is that also a part that gets thrown away often?
 
There are systems designed to do this very thing in the truck washing world but I see no real benefit in house washing. When your working in smaller figures per piece you can see a difference in a hose full of chemicals being wasted after 100 trucks but your working with different profit margines and if your worried about chemical useage that much just add another $5.00 to the quote and your covered
 
You could always use something like the foam cannon if you're doing smaller jobs and don't need that much chemical. A lot easier than X-jetting and no chem going through the hoses or strapped to your back ;)

Plus if you have some surfactant in your mix, you can get some good foam.

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