EPA Enforcement in 2012 Protects Communities From Harmful Pollution

John:

No, I am not famliar with it. I will check your link. Do you know what we need to do to make that happen?
Robert my last job secured grants for Seatbelt Overtime paid for by the state Gov't up to 3-4 times a yr because it saves lives(I always turned this down so the young guns can take it because I wasn't a ticket writer).

In this Industry I'm clueless. I am going to look further about grants then Jim Grady who was a past IWCA President and who's spot I ended up with as the PWNA treasurer(Jim is a star). This is on my radar this yr to look into. My guess is I may need you and possibly the PWNA and the UAMCC non profit status to make a case. The one thing I'll never do which was the same as last time is use the Internet chattering as my point to sell them on.. Like everything else, like I did on my last job, i would look for the people with the most solid backgrounds & passions to support the argument.

Here's my attorney for years who I left him a message the day he died. Still will not take his cell out of my contacts. What they are not saying in this link http://www.antonnews.com/roslynnews/obits/12850-obituary-michael-c-axelrod.html
Is he pretty much wrote the union contracts all thru-out NY state, he was the republican man of the year here in NY and I can go on an on about him... Plus I power washed his house every few yrs(smile).

I wish he was alive today.. I need him, miss him and respected him. If he was alive today he could tell me what to do about this environmental stuff and who to contact. Thru him I met Peter King , Alphonse Damato, ny Repunlican party chair Joseph Mondello
http://www.nassaucountygop.com/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={FAF5156F-D63E-4016-81A5-4A940F06DCAD}

And on and on to the point I have a personal invite today once again to the Independence party chair here Rick Bellando on January 31.

I'm debating on using these guys... But my ace.. Has past on.

We'll see. In Texas keep an eye on Jeb Bush's kid... Named George Bush.
 
Tony go talk to a regulator or better yet go talk to someone who directly works for the EPA. Let us know what you come back with.

John, do you not read anything on here? I spent almost two months doing just that this summer in four states. I attend our local meetings 1 to 3 times each month. I have been working with a lobbyist that helped the construction industry get eased regulations in California.

This has been quite a lot of work. I don"t even have a dog in this fight. HVAC reclaim is a piece of cake and my son already has reclaim and filtration and plenty of money to bite the bullet and get more if he has to.

This isn't about me. I am not selling anything and have nothing to gain personally from this fight.

I just know this is one of the few industries left in America where all it takes is hard and honest work to make a living for an entire family. I would like to see it stay that way.

I would rather work alongside 20 guys who worked hard and started a business from nothing than beside some guy who's daddy tied up the industry with a bunch of regulations aimed to out everybody else out of business.

I have spent a lot of this year talking to regulators who understand this. I have been doing my part

Please, if you are going to comment, at least read before you do.



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Robert my last job secured grants for Seatbelt Overtime paid for by the state Gov't up to 3-4 times a yr because it saves lives(I always turned this down so the young guns can take it because I wasn't a ticket writer).

In this Industry I'm clueless. I am going to look further about grants then Jim Grady who was a past IWCA President and who's spot I ended up with as the PWNA treasurer(Jim is a star). This is on my radar this yr to look into. My guess is I may need you and possibly the PWNA and the UAMCC non profit status to make a case. The one thing I'll never do which was the same as last time is use the Internet chattering as my point to sell them on.. Like everything else, like I did on my last job, i would look for the people with the most solid backgrounds & passions to support the argument.

Here's my attorney for years who I left him a message the day he died. Still will not take his cell out of my contacts. What they are not saying in this link http://www.antonnews.com/roslynnews/obits/12850-obituary-michael-c-axelrod.html
Is he pretty much wrote the union contracts all thru-out NY state, he was the republican man of the year here in NY and I can go on an on about him... Plus I power washed his house every few yrs(smile).

I wish he was alive today.. I need him, miss him and respected him. If he was alive today he could tell me what to do about this environmental stuff and who to contact. Thru him I met Peter King , Alphonse Damato, ny Repunlican party chair Joseph Mondello
http://www.nassaucountygop.com/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC=%7BFAF5156F-D63E-4016-81A5-4A940F06DCAD%7D

And on and on to the point I have a personal invite today once again to the Independence party chair here Rick Bellando on January 31.

I'm debating on using these guys... But my ace.. Has past on.

We'll see. In Texas keep an eye on Jeb Bush's kid... Named George Bush.

Thank you John.
 
John, do you not read anything on here? I spent almost two months doing just that this summer in four states. I attend our local meetings 1 to 3 times each month. I have been working with a lobbyist that helped the construction industry get eased regulations in California.

This has been quite a lot of work. I don"t even have a dog in this fight. HVAC reclaim is a piece of cake and my son already has reclaim and filtration and plenty of money to bite the bullet and get more if he has to.

This isn't about me. I am not selling anything and have nothing to gain personally from this fight.

I just know this is one of the few industries left in America where all it takes is hard and honest work to make a living for an entire family. I would like to see it stay that way.

I would rather work alongside 20 guys who worked hard and started a business from nothing than beside some guy who's daddy tied up the industry with a bunch of regulations aimed to out everybody else out of business.

I have spent a lot of this year talking to regulators who understand this. I have been doing my part

Please, if you are going to comment, at least read before you do.



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Darn your fast.. Give me a few.. I'm posting pics shortly on my laptop.
 
Here's some pics of political connections I have here. I'll leave this first one alone.. That's Michael Axelrod my Attorney for years next to me and Kath. He was my ace. He taught me and gave legal advice to me for years. We had him on retainer for probably around 15 yrs. He's one of the reasons I'm never afraid of frivolous lawsuits. He mentored me well.
 

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Here's some pics with Alphonse Damato--notice I tend to wear the same suit.. Because I'm not a suit person.. don't own more then 2-3 and they probably don't. One of them you can role up the sleaves... ala Miami Vice(Thats how old that one is)
 

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House chair of Homeland Security Peter King(Stayed longer then terms allowed--thats how good he is) and Independence party Chair Frank MacKay.
Oh yea and my west coast Connection--- The one and only who can take the senate floor for hours making his case and finally get ones to say "ALRIGHT ALREADY!! GIVE THIS MAN WHAT HE WANT'S!!!! The one and only Tony Shelton.
 

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I know alot of this is about "Show me the Money" and bending people towards your views... if you can't have fun with this stuff whats the point.
Pic Below is the me and Kath horsing around when people were waiting for the Independence party house chair Frank MacKay to speak.. look hard you can see him talking to reporters.. and like here no one is listening to me..lol
 

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John, do you not read anything on here? I spent almost two months doing just that this summer in four states. I attend our local meetings 1 to 3 times each month. I have been working with a lobbyist that helped the construction industry get eased regulations in California.

This has been quite a lot of work. I don"t even have a dog in this fight. HVAC reclaim is a piece of cake and my son already has reclaim and filtration and plenty of money to bite the bullet and get more if he has to.

This isn't about me. I am not selling anything and have nothing to gain personally from this fight.

I just know this is one of the few industries left in America where all it takes is hard and honest work to make a living for an entire family. I would like to see it stay that way.

I would rather work alongside 20 guys who worked hard and started a business from nothing than beside some guy who's daddy tied up the industry with a bunch of regulations aimed to out everybody else out of business.

I have spent a lot of this year talking to regulators who understand this. I have been doing my part

Please, if you are going to comment, at least read before you do.



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Ouch your brutal on the net.. I'm brutal behind closed doors... I am reading everything here Tony. Sometimes twice. I think if we keep at it on this thread maybe something can happen. You just never know.

Tell us about that lobbyist your working with in the construction Industry. That tells me there going to work the system... Correct to do that. You can argue Pork Barrel spending in here.. But that's not going to work..
This industry needs lobbyist...
So give us a map on how your doing that. Also I believe you that your not doing this for your own interest but your doing it for the right reasons(complicated but I get it)
 
Ok everyone, just as a general comment to some here in this thread, please keep promotional posts and promotional pictures out of this thread and keep the posts to the subject at hand.
 
Sorry, but the EPA will clarify their position. I have no input on the EPA's position.

What you need to do it get ready to converse with them, and forget about me. I have given you the opportunity for a national stage, to make a difference that counts; not just words and attacks.

I have asked several others to view this thread, and the normal response is it is not worth their time, sorry.

Why would anyone converse with the EPA? They have stated pressure washing is not even on their radar. As per your posts the implementation occurs at city state and county. Except, as per your post, they do not even follow the EPA's 'laws' anyways!?
 
Ok everyone, just as a general comment to some here in this thread, please keep promotional posts and promotional pictures out of this thread and keep the posts to the subject at hand.

Come on Doug, we need a humor every now and then. I enjoyed the pictures.
 
Steven:

There are general guidelines, but nothing is fast and hard! The EPA sets the discharge limits and your local AHJ sets the acceptable BMPs.

There are jurisdictions that do not honor "If your discharge wash water does not reach water of the United States, there are no requirements under the CWA. No off property discharge." The only recourse against jurisdictions that do not honor this is litigation. And the AHJs normally have more money than does the Contractor.

It comes down to "you have to know your territory".


Fantastic, law-breaking jurisdictions enforcing 'laws'! This should be top priority for you.
 
Come on Doug, we need a humor every now and then. I enjoyed the pictures.

Lol...must have been your first time seeing them. Some us have seen them countless times. And for the record, I was not directing my comment to anyone specifically. More than one have used this thread for promotional reasons. You Sir get a little more latitude as the thread starter.

Carry On..
 
Steven:

There are general guidelines, but nothing is fast and hard! The EPA sets the discharge limits and your local AHJ sets the acceptable BMPs.

There are jurisdictions that do not honor "If your discharge wash water does not reach water of the United States, there are no requirements under the CWA. No off property discharge." The only recourse against jurisdictions that do not honor this is litigation. And the AHJs normally have more money than does the Contractor.

It comes down to "you have to know your territory".

This is what I was referring to. How does everyone sit with AHJ's disregarding the EPA's own regulations?
 
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Any questions call Robert's Cell 817-366-3041
The title in your above post that I and many others have a problem with Robert saying that that gas station is typical and that it is typical pollution from mobile contract cleaners, I don't see any that bad in my area and when I travel around the country to conventions and round tables each year, sometimes 4 to 6 times a year in the past, that is not a typical gas station at all from what I have seen all around the country, so that is not a typical gas station or typical stains.

WE ARE NOT POLLUTERS, WE CLEAN UP THE POLLUTION.

The pollution is there, it is pre-existing, we just properly remove it.

There probably have been contractors in the past, maybe even now that did the wrong thing but we as an industry are trying to change things so we are looked upon with some respect and help people out there to understand that we are the solution to the pollution, we did not put it there, we are removing it before the rain can wash it into the US waterways and contaminate them.

I Seriously would change that title as it is not helping us all with our image, it sounds scary and I think it would scare people if they read it. I am not sure if it was meant to be scary but it does have that affect.

From a contractor's point of view, your title is making it sound like all contractors are polluters when we all are cleaning up the pollution and making the environment a lot cleaner place for us, our families and our children. I think it is safe to say that most of all mobile contract cleaners are doing the right thing these days but we all are trying to make the world a cleaner place for everyone by properly cleaning up pre-existing situations and making them safer for everyone.



I really don't see the benefit in that choice of title, maybe you can tell me why you chose to use that title instead of something like, "Mobile Contract Cleaners can remove these stains, chemical residue and other pre-existing pollution from the surface and properly process and dispose of the wash water" ? ? ? Not trying to bash you or start an argument here, just wondering why the title? ? ?



I think that the current group of contract cleaners are many, many times more conscious of the cleaning we do, the issues we face and the potential problems we face if we do the wrong thing compared to the contract cleaners of 10, 15, 20 years ago so we need to help educate the public, not scare them into understanding what we do, the pollution we remove (we do not create pollution, we remove it to make the area safe for everyone) and how we make the environment cleaner and to help maintain the cleanliness for our customers.

There are so many leaky cars on the road, most probably will never get the leaks fixed for one or more reasons so we are there to properly clean the area and make it safe for everyone so that this stuff does not go into the US Waterways when it rains. When we clean up these situations we are removing leaky car pollution (we are not leaky cars and do not cause the pollution, we clean and remove the pollution) and helping the environment to be a cleaner place for everyone.

There are other pre-existing pollutants on properties that you listed that we as mobile contract cleaners can properly remove to leave the properties cleaner and pollution-free and safe for everyone. We need to educate the public that we are removing the pre-existing pollution, we are not causing the pre-existing pollution, I think we all can agree that we are cleaning up the pre-existing pollution and properly processing it and disposing of it properly.

If there are people out there doing the wrong thing after all this time, they need to be educated but if they are not-caring or repeat offenders then it is time for the authorities to get involved and handle them as they are a problem not only for us, the community but also the environment as well.

Great Thread Chris, these are the comments dropped by robert in his Media.

What I can't understand is why someone who is suppose to be working for us wouldn't point out how the pollution is created. Most important making this seem as this is the norm, this photo is a Commercial Diesel fulling station, maybe a private one.

I recall another one of Roberts quotes from NC. ( Its not Exact) " Pollution and contaminates off building washing should be ok to rinse into the soil and allowed to bio remediate. "

That statement at first Glance you think way to go Robert, after you watch a regulator making BMP's up not exactly accepted.

It raises questions and then options, of course Craig Miller (NC) wanted full reclaim on building washing after reading it.

Robert your a Cleaver guy, yeah I'm accusing you of being vary clever. I didn't catch these things until I had talked to a few people you have talked with. Some I had even referred you to, I was truthfully hoping you wanted to help.

Robert, if you read yourself from and outsiders stand or regulator its clear the focus is not cleaners at your concern.

Lets list the whys?

A. I see no credits to anyone
B: Your own the programs instead of donating the property to the industry.
C: You have charged for simple info, often Public info or safety. I realize you have to earn a Living.
D: You have claimed your funded by the company not the orgs.
G: you require in the PWNA program for wash water to own a Reclaim. (WHY) Because at days end the only thing you think that takes the grey out of all of this is recovery.
H: here's the biggest one that shows no real concern, you lump us all in a one size fits all. Some with interest and concerns would never do this.

The list might go on and on


Robert you will make the above and attack when in fact its just my opinion.
 
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The title in your above post that I and many others have a problem with Robert saying that that gas station is typical and that it is typical pollution from mobile contract cleaners, I don't see any that bad in my area and when I travel around the country to conventions and round tables each year, sometimes 4 to 6 times a year in the past, that is not a typical gas station at all from what I have seen all around the country, so that is not a typical gas station or typical stains.

WE ARE NOT POLLUTERS, WE CLEAN UP THE POLLUTION.

The pollution is there, it is pre-existing, we just properly remove it.

There probably have been contractors in the past, maybe even now that did the wrong thing but we as an industry are trying to change things so we are looked upon with some respect and help people out there to understand that we are the solution to the pollution, we did not put it there, we are removing it before the rain can wash it into the US waterways and contaminate them.

I Seriously would change that title as it is not helping us all with our image, it sounds scary and I think it would scare people if they read it. I am not sure if it was meant to be scary but it does have that affect.

From a contractor's point of view, your title is making it sound like all contractors are polluters when we all are cleaning up the pollution and making the environment a lot cleaner place for us, our families and our children. I think it is safe to say that most of all mobile contract cleaners are doing the right thing these days but we all are trying to make the world a cleaner place for everyone by properly cleaning up pre-existing situations and making them safer for everyone.



I really don't see the benefit in that choice of title, maybe you can tell me why you chose to use that title instead of something like, "Mobile Contract Cleaners can remove these stains, chemical residue and other pre-existing pollution from the surface and properly process and dispose of the wash water" ? ? ? Not trying to bash you or start an argument here, just wondering why the title? ? ?



I think that the current group of contract cleaners are many, many times more conscious of the cleaning we do, the issues we face and the potential problems we face if we do the wrong thing compared to the contract cleaners of 10, 15, 20 years ago so we need to help educate the public, not scare them into understanding what we do, the pollution we remove (we do not create pollution, we remove it to make the area safe for everyone) and how we make the environment cleaner and to help maintain the cleanliness for our customers.

There are so many leaky cars on the road, most probably will never get the leaks fixed for one or more reasons so we are there to properly clean the area and make it safe for everyone so that this stuff does not go into the US Waterways when it rains. When we clean up these situations we are removing leaky car pollution (we are not leaky cars and do not cause the pollution, we clean and remove the pollution) and helping the environment to be a cleaner place for everyone.

There are other pre-existing pollutants on properties that you listed that we as mobile contract cleaners can properly remove to leave the properties cleaner and pollution-free and safe for everyone. We need to educate the public that we are removing the pre-existing pollution, we are not causing the pre-existing pollution, I think we all can agree that we are cleaning up the pre-existing pollution and properly processing it and disposing of it properly.

If there are people out there doing the wrong thing after all this time, they need to be educated but if they are not-caring or repeat offenders then it is time for the authorities to get involved and handle them as they are a problem not only for us, the community but also the environment as well.

Great Thread Chris, these are the comments dropped by robert in his Media.

What I can't understand is why someone who is suppose to be working for us wouldn't point out how the pollution is created. Most important making this seem as this is the norm, this photo is a Commercial Diesel fulling station, maybe a private one.

I recall another one of Roberts quotes from NC. ( Its not Exact) " Pollution and contaminates off building washing should be ok to rinse into the soil and allowed to bio remediate. "

That statement at first Glance you think way to go Robert, after you watch a regulator making BMP's up not exactly accepted.

It raises questions and then options, of course Craig Miller (NC) wanted full reclaim on building washing after reading it.

Robert your a Cleaver guy, yeah I'm accusing you of being vary clever. I didn't catch these things until I had talked to a few people you have talked with. Some I had even referred you to, I was truthfully hoping you wanted to help.

Robert, if you read yourself from and outsiders stand or regulator its clear the focus is not cleaners at your concern.

Lets list the whys?

A. I see no credits to anyone
B: Your own the programs instead of donating the property to the industry.
C: You have charged for simple info, often Public info or safety. I realize you have to earn a Living.
D: You have claimed your funded by the company not the orgs.
G: you require in the PWNA program for wash water to own a Reclaim. (WHY) Because at days end the only thing you think that takes the grey out of all of this is recovery.
H: here's the biggest one that shows no real concern, you lump us all in a one size fits all. Some with interest and concerns would never do this.

The list might go on and on


Robert you will make the above and attack when in fact its just my opinion.
 
This is what I was referring to. How does everyone sit with AHJ's disregarding the EPA's own regulations?

Tom:

I know this is not "Logical, Reasonable, or Rational", it is politics.

The Federal EPA responsibilities is to set Discharge Limits and the Municipalities set BMPs for our industry. The cities can be more restrictive than the Feds but not less restrictive. Of f Property Discharge is Feds but Cities can be more restrictive.

Another responsibility of the Feds is to make sure that there are no Environmental Holidays where rules are not enforced.
 
Ok everyone, just as a general comment to some here in this thread, please keep promotional posts and promotional pictures out of this thread and keep the posts to the subject at hand.
Are you talking about these pics I just posted here?
 
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