Greasers Taking Over Flatwork, for now...

hi-temp hydro

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It's now happened twice this week with two stores. I call ahead to let restaurant managers know when I'll be on site to clean walkways, drive-thru's, and dumpster pads on a normal 60 day schedule that was agreed on with a simple handshake. I always call ahead just to make sure that the areas I will clean are clear of anything they may have stacked up. The managers reply that the hood cleaners are now doing the areas on a 90, one for $25 the other $50 less than my 60 rates. One of them said he couldn't tell that they even did anything outside and he would call to see what's going on and would get back with me if that if what he was looking at around his restaurant was the best they could do.

So let's look at lessons to be learned here to save you from potential issues:

1. MY FAULT.Never let a "personal" relationship with a client get in the way of business.
I will from now on have a written agreement signed prior to service with a no need to call clause prior to service. Anything that they stack up or put in the way will be cleaned around unless they want me to move and clean (for a nominal fee of course). And a 2 month notification of service cancellation.

2.THE NEW GUYS FAULT.Make dang sure you do as good of a job as the previous service provider.
I don't blame someone for an upsale at all, here in the case of the hood guys. I will get these back, it's just a matter of time. Once the customer sees the difference in service. They're now cleaning the same area that I used to clean every 60 in 90 and the customer can't tell a difference after 60? GOOD LUCK impressing him after a 90!

3.THE CUSTOMERS FAULT. Don't piss away good vendors to save a few bucks and sacrifice the overall appearance of the property.
Commercial accounts such as these are my priority. I frequently go out to clean for these guys in a pinch when major management pops in on short notice for a touch-up. Are the new guys gonna do that? It'll cost you much more for them since they're not doing the hoods.

I'm sure these circumstances and lessons I learned are common for many of you, but maybe someone else can learn from the first 2 pointers before it happens to you.

There's nothing you can do about #3. Everyone is trying to get more bang for the buck, and sometimes people who are thinking about saving a dollar don't recognize the difference in quality of service. The lack of respect given was what hurt the most, not even the common courtesy to give a call when approached with another proposal. From now on it's strictly contractual business with customers such as this.

Good luck, and hope this helps someone out.
 
That's a hard lesson to learn but you need to get a contract for ALL your work. It protects both of you as to what is expected on both sides and is just a good buisness practice.
As a hood cleaning exclusive company I see how it is a easy add on but we are so busy with the KEC side of the work we don't have the time and quite frankly the PSI and GPM used are two diffrent set up s so we stay out of the flatwork. I do see how it is a easy sell for the KEC guys since the KEC has to be done for fire codes,insurance, property managers and the health dept so in tight times they are usually the last pressure washing service they cut..
 
Good Thread! I am relatively new to flatwork, but have recently discovered i am better than most of the jokers out here! I took a Restaurant owner aside after I had done some test sppots on his pad and I said " this one was done with heat. This one with heat and soap. This one with just cold water... which one do you like?" They point to the heat and soap which is almost always more than the current knucklehead is doing for them. And then I leave them with this: " any knuckleheads come in here promising to better than I can for less...then I will let you take the pepsi challenge and I will go toe to toe, and let you decide the victor!"
 
Flat-workers beware!

Actually guys, I think it is a good idea to try and do as much as possible at one location as long as you can do it well. If you are using a little electric unit and a turbo tip for hoods, for goodness sake, don't be attempting their sidewalks with that!

With that said, greasers are THE BEST at removing grease... from just about anything, so if you have the proper equipment go for the flatwork too. If you don't, then network with a flatworker you can trust.
 
This is some great info and advice, thanks.
 
thats true i always wondered why they dont dip in to flatwork. I wish i could dip into hoods I know i can sell a package deal but for now im just sticking to flatwork
 
Oh Cmon'..... I thought I was supposed to clean concrete along with the vent hood cleaning and fire equipment.. . Hey but I am not Cheap... Heck I even Clean Interior tile floors too, and just the other day I was asked if I would like to buy a carpet cleaning rig.. I just may do it.. I figure if a restaurant closes at 10 pm and doesn't open until 8 am in the morning that gives me 10 hours to make all the money I can..Once I even Cleaned a 6 story trash chute at a hospitol now that was fun...
 
Well I was Tempe last night and had the pleasure of watching some hack flatwork guys attempt a Mexican KEC. :killingme:

I should have had video going the whole time cause it was hilarious! They had no plastic or ladder they did have Costco degreaser 7gls from what I seen them did into and about the same number of bleach container were used.
 
One reason not to do 60 days, I do every other week cleanings, everyone else better look for someone else unless you dont mind paying really well...
 
I love watching people try to clean hoods with improper equipment and Knowledge... But I can remember about 19 years ago when I tried to clean a greek tavern with a 1000 psi @ 2gpm machine .. I actually told the guy I could not clean it.. But here I am going on 20 years later with better equipment and most importantly the knowledge I can clean almost anything... Not that I want too.. But with the new year I am thinking about including carpet cleaning, since we already clean interior tile , and vent hoods.. I also am a firm believer in the fact that if you have the nowledge and the equipment by all means clean whatever you can , and if you don't have the equipment or knowledge then you don't do the work until you learn and spend money on the right equipment..
 
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