Guy Blackmon was right!

carolinawildcat said:
Sorry, the comment about productivity was directed to Guy re: washing from the road.

Thanks for pic. I never mounted my unit because I use trailer for other things. And have to confess, sometimes I'm short on pressure hose & have to roll that damn thing off to get close enough, even though I routinely carry 250' of hose. The majority of the homes in my target market are medium-large ranches with detached garages, and throw in a deck or a pool, and I'm plum outta hose on maybe 2 out of 10 jobs.
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I usually wash from the road as well. I keep 200 feet of hose on the real and that is usually plenty to get whatever job I need to do done. I carry an extra 50 feet in the back of the truck just in case though. And if that is still not enough I will usually ask permission to back into the customers driveway.

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Oh, I thought Guy meant wash in the direction of the house "from the road". But he meant keep vehicle on road so you don't have to move it. Right? I thought perhaps there was some super magic secret about cleaning one direction vs. the other. My overthinking is getting the better of me.
 
Ok thanks for the information guys. I have a 300 gallon water supply,..and we also typically run a hose into to keep it topped off,..as long as they're on city water,..which is about 80% of the time. I needed to know about the feeding and the hose size,.. and it seems those questions were answered.

Thanks Again,
Jeff
 
I seen a post somewhere stating an 8 GPM pump was being used in two ways. They had both outlet ports able to be used,..one,..for house washing with the downstreamer connected slowed the flow to around 6 GPM,..and the other was unrestricted for running a surface cleaner. Will a downstreamer cut that much flow? Is that something anyone else does or did I misread or what?

Jeff
 
I would not split the flow on 8gpm's because then you would be running only 4 gpm's more or less so you could only be running a classic or other smaller surface cleaner while the other person is washing a house with 4gpm's.

Using the injectors is how you can restrict the flow but not sure how much it would restrict it, I have seen some units that came with 2 injectors and the special green spring unloader that is made to bypass all the time and not burn out.

Most of those rigs split the flow after the unloader, not at the pump because then you would need a separate unloader on each line after the pump and before the hose reel so when you let go of the trigger, the water has to go somewhere.

Not sure if you are washing with 8gpm, 5.5gpm or what, I would recommend getting another rig onto the trailer as the 8gpm really speeds things up on the job, I would not split that flow, I would get another cold water rig and put another bulkhead fitting onto the tank, run a separate line to that machine, bypass water line to the top of the tank and put another hose reel onto the trailer so you can take advantage of the ability to run 2 or more rigs on the trailer to speed up the job or when needed, run a "T" after 2 machines to run a huge surface cleaner like the 36" maxima or larger.

Just my opinion.
 
With the poly tanks are they just gravity fed with a garden hose like a normal connection to a home spigot or do you have a small water pump inline to push water to the units? I just bought a new washer and have never really understood the concept of wanting trailer water unless it was a job where no water was available....?? most people just put the hose in the top of the tank from what ive seen so why not just run it straight to the pump?? What HP motor is good for an 8GPM pump? 11.5 Briggs work for now?
 
Thanks Chris,..Yea I am gonna keep my current machine on the trailer,..I will,need to make room for the 8 GPM. I wasn't clear in my previous post,...the guy was only using one side at a time,...when he washed a house he used the downstreamer side by itself,...then would switch to surface cleaning and run it through the unrestricted side. I never got an 8 GPM machine in all these years because I thought it would be tough to feed,..but it seems like my 300 gallons will be ok through reading I seen a handful of guys using 100 gallon buffer tanks,..so I guess I'm good,..especially when I keep it topped of with supply. I'm most likely going to get the Pressure Pro 8 GPM cold from Bob. I do 95% residential so I think cold will be fine.
 
You can always run 2 supply hoses if one does not do the job as sometimes the water spigots on houses are clogged some from mineral deposits over the years.

There are many times I have had to run 2 hoses to run either my 5.6gpm or 8gpm machine, I just keep extra hoses on the trailer just in case. I have one coiled up and then I have one of those hose reels that has the 4 tires on the front of the trailer with 3 sections of 110' of garden hose besides the extra coil and then the Hannay Electric hose reel with 225' of 3/4" hose. With all that hose I can keep the 325 gallon tank supplied with water for running either machine or both.

When you start running 8gpm's all the time you will love it once you get used to it.

I have the 8gpm cold water pressure pro like what you are talking about, it does a great job on everything, just wish I had a hot box sometimes so that I can have 2 people popping gum on some jobs, only the 5.6gpm has hot water on the trailer but I might get a hot box later on this year for it.
 
I mostly use 8gpm now, used to use the 5.6gpm machine before I got used to the 8gpm.

The 8gpm will shoot higher than the 5.6gpm for the taller parts of the house, not sure exactly how much higher but higher.

Guy Blackmon is probably the best at telling you how things will change by going to 8gpm if you have time to call him and chat for a little bit.

I am glad that I have the 8gpm machine as the rinsing is a lot faster on house washing, truck washing, concrete cleaning, etc.....When you think about it, it is not quite double the flow but seems almost double because of the amount of stuff you can move.

I don't think it is overkill at all, I really like it so much that I hardly ever use the 5.6gpm machine anymore, mostly use it for hot water as it is the hot water skid on the trailer. When I get a hotbox for the 8gpm machine, I might pull the 5.6gpm hot water skid off the trailer and get another 8gpm machine to put there.

Is there someone close to you that has an 8gpm machine so you can go try it some? If so, try it out before you buy it to make sure that you like the added flow, I think that there might have been someone in the past that posted that they did not like the 8gpm machine but I am not sure if it was here or on another forum.
 
814jeffw said:
Chris,..or anyone,...does 8 GPM ever seem overkill for house washing,..or is it just right?

Jeff
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No not at all. I think it is just about a perfect balance for water supply also. Sometimes you'll catch a low flow supply but that's where your buffer tank will save the day.

We run 2 trailers with two 8 gpm units each, 1 hot 1 cold. 3000 sq ft home washed 20 to 30 mins start to finish.

The pressure pro unit you're getting is a great choice, they make great cold water units. Building a box truck that will be fitted with 2 of them. As soon as this weather breaks for a few days it's off to be rhino lined.

Just shout if you have any questions, I'll do my best to help.
 
Guy Blackmon said:
No not at all. I think it is just about a perfect balance for water supply also. Sometimes you'll catch a low flow supply but that's where your buffer tank will save the day.

We run 2 trailers with two 8 gpm units each, 1 hot 1 cold. 3000 sq ft home washed 20 to 30 mins start to finish.

The pressure pro unit you're getting is a great choice, they make great cold water units. Building a box truck that will be fitted with 2 of them. As soon as this weather breaks for a few days it's off to be rhino lined.

Just shout if you have any questions, I'll do my best to help.
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Listen to this. See thread title. :)

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That is very fast Guy, is that one guy soaping and the other rinsing or each guy taking 1/2 of the house?
 
Ok thanks everyone,..my main thought for 8 GPM is flat work,..we wash alot of houses and roofs, but flat work always seems to come along with it after we're there. Not to mention the handful of calls we get just for concrete and decks. 8 GPM is sure to wake my 22" surface cleaner up. I am going to keep my current washer on board,..just gonna add the new one. After 16 years we have a great customer base, both in size and quality of customers,...so the added speed won't be an issue of getting done seemingly too fast and making the customer wonder if they got their moneys worth. We don't rinse roofs normally, but we also work for Remax and a few other realtors,..and sometimes they need them complete for a showing,...I bet 8 GPM really speeds up rinsing a roof as well. My biggest hurdle is making the space,..which I've concluded will have to be done by literally,.."Making Space",...by extending my trailer. Right now I don't have room for a squirt gun. Guy, I may give you a call as I ponder this.

Thanks Again,
Jeff
 
That is a good idea, post pics of the trailer.

If you can add a couple hundred pounds to the trailer and not be close to being at 80% of weight capacity, there is always room. Sometimes you have to go up like move hose reels to the top rail or up higher like on the ladder rack, build a frame to put the new pressure washer on to be above other equipment or fuel tanks or over other tanks. Most of the time there is a solution, we are all here to help. Post some pics and you might be suprised on the answers.
 
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