Lou hoods&more
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I've always felt the same way.
But I view all orgs/unions/groups as attempts to contain.....
Hood Cleaning School
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But I view all orgs/unions/groups as attempts to contain.....
HoodPunisher
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I'm new here and I read every post on this thread..word by word!
I just can't believe how many people tried to bash an honest business and school owner.
Rusty, congratulations! I think you would be better off being a Lawyer than cleaning Hoods! It's impressive how you defended yourself the whole time...this thread is about 7 yrs OLD...and without cursing someone! I know I would've had done...
Now, back to the question about the cost of "hood cleaning school"...do I think it's expensive for a week course? YES...I do, but that's not a reason for one to bad mouth it.
How much cost a 4 yr degree from a state college and from a private school? The difference will be from $10,000 to $200,000! People pay this all the time..do you see threads bashing them? NO!
Hood Cleaning School is offering a business opportunity...an unique system...and they're not forcing anyone to do it...everything is upfront on their website.
Have you guys heard about Hoodz? Is part of Ductz....Hoodz is an Exhaust Cleaning Franchise that will cost you $60,000! NOT 6 thousand...60..SIXTY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS...plus monthly fees and commissions...and you are limited to One Terrytory...and you have to have a Networth of $250,000 to qualify...that's right? How many start-ups have that? Hood Cleaning School is helping the average Joe outthere to move up in life..not an already rich investor that have 250K seating around. Im sure they have good things to offer...but I would choose to invest $8,000 plus the equipment with Hood Cleaning School than paying $60,000 to a big Corporation!!!
If you want bash someone or a company...find a real ripoff! Don't try to crucify an honest hard working man like Russel, that only did good things to his graduates and raises a family.
Hey Russel, we haven't met or talked yet...if I decide to join this industry...I'm calling you!!!
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Rome Power
HoodPunisher
602-330-8061
I just can't believe how many people tried to bash an honest business and school owner.
Rusty, congratulations! I think you would be better off being a Lawyer than cleaning Hoods! It's impressive how you defended yourself the whole time...this thread is about 7 yrs OLD...and without cursing someone! I know I would've had done...
Now, back to the question about the cost of "hood cleaning school"...do I think it's expensive for a week course? YES...I do, but that's not a reason for one to bad mouth it.
How much cost a 4 yr degree from a state college and from a private school? The difference will be from $10,000 to $200,000! People pay this all the time..do you see threads bashing them? NO!
Hood Cleaning School is offering a business opportunity...an unique system...and they're not forcing anyone to do it...everything is upfront on their website.
Have you guys heard about Hoodz? Is part of Ductz....Hoodz is an Exhaust Cleaning Franchise that will cost you $60,000! NOT 6 thousand...60..SIXTY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS...plus monthly fees and commissions...and you are limited to One Terrytory...and you have to have a Networth of $250,000 to qualify...that's right? How many start-ups have that? Hood Cleaning School is helping the average Joe outthere to move up in life..not an already rich investor that have 250K seating around. Im sure they have good things to offer...but I would choose to invest $8,000 plus the equipment with Hood Cleaning School than paying $60,000 to a big Corporation!!!
If you want bash someone or a company...find a real ripoff! Don't try to crucify an honest hard working man like Russel, that only did good things to his graduates and raises a family.
Hey Russel, we haven't met or talked yet...if I decide to join this industry...I'm calling you!!!
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Rome Power
HoodPunisher
602-330-8061
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I fixed your signature, i think most are over the negative stuff here. Rusty is welcome here like anyone is, most of the negative guys are out of biz
dodsonish
Grease Police President
How much did Rusty pay you for that advertisement? :secret:
Just kidding. So you're not into hood cleaning yet? Will "HoodPunisher" be you company name?
Lou hoods&more
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asewell77
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i totally agree with the "hood punisher". i read the whole thread also and i cant beleive how negative some of you guys r towards others. im fairly new here and sometimes im afraid to post questions because of the way ive seen yall rip on people. i for one am not a huge power washing company but id like to be. us "new" guys just want guidance so we can become successful like some of you guys thats been doing it 20 years. i think that what it all boils down to is that sometimes we forget where we came from and what it is we had to do to get where we are now. russel is just a capitalist and without capitalism none of you big shots would be where you are today! so russel if u r reading this, i may not ever take your class, but i fully support your american dream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i totally agree with the "hood punisher". i read the whole thread also and i cant beleive how negative some of you guys r towards others. im fairly new here and sometimes im afraid to post questions because of the way ive seen yall rip on people. i for one am not a huge power washing company but id like to be. us "new" guys just want guidance so we can become successful like some of you guys thats been doing it 20 years. i think that what it all boils down to is that sometimes we forget where we came from and what it is we had to do to get where we are now. russel is just a capitalist and without capitalism none of you big shots would be where you are today! so russel if u r reading this, i may not ever take your class, but i fully support your american dream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RustyACE
President CHDCA
Thanks. I haven't seen this thread in a while.
We are starting our 10th year here soon since I came on board.
Launching our biggest project yet on Feb 1, 2011.
http://www.ezhoods.com
Look forward to many more years of being here.
Sincerely,
We are starting our 10th year here soon since I came on board.
Launching our biggest project yet on Feb 1, 2011.
http://www.ezhoods.com
Look forward to many more years of being here.
Sincerely,
chirs
New member
Is this the correct spot to get free advertisement for my school?
For hood cleaning and Fixed Fire systems training visit www.firemanllc.com
For hood cleaning and Fixed Fire systems training visit www.firemanllc.com
Age old Questions.
Hows the New AZSI Standards affecting Certifications?
RustyACE
President CHDCA
Dear Ron,
That is a great question. The new ANSI cleaning standards proposed by IKECA don't have anything to do with certification. They are a cleaning standard, and as written are a basically taken straight from Phil Ackland and the NFPA and reformatted with their Brand name on it.
They are playing games at the NFPA 96 trying to imply that if you don't get certified by IKECA then it doesn't mean anything, but the NFPA is a standards document, not a Branding document for IKECA to play with.
They claim innocence in that they didn't know that ANSI was going to name the document the IKECA/ANSI document.
If ANSI had proposed these standards and left off the Brand Name IKECA, then I would have been 100% for them, and/or even including outside voices on their ANSI document so that it truly represents the industry, not just one side of the argument, but they chose specifically to keep it hidden and confidential and at literally at the last minute vote pull the document out and pass a copy around for the NFPA committee to look at.
They want a document that hasn't even been tested in the real world, to be written into the NFPA 96 as the Standard way that everyone should be doing it. Maybe this is the case, but it should be tested for a few years and then proven to be a better document that the industry should follow, not just "we just hit print and here it is...so let's insert it into the document".
Anything that pushes this industry forward, I'm for, anything that pushes a specific brand forward, I'm not for.
I don't care if you get properly trained, qualified and certified from (IKECA, PAC or CHDCA), as long as you get the training, know what you do, and take the time to maintain that level of education via certification, I'm all for it.
So did that answer your question?
That is a great question. The new ANSI cleaning standards proposed by IKECA don't have anything to do with certification. They are a cleaning standard, and as written are a basically taken straight from Phil Ackland and the NFPA and reformatted with their Brand name on it.
They are playing games at the NFPA 96 trying to imply that if you don't get certified by IKECA then it doesn't mean anything, but the NFPA is a standards document, not a Branding document for IKECA to play with.
They claim innocence in that they didn't know that ANSI was going to name the document the IKECA/ANSI document.
If ANSI had proposed these standards and left off the Brand Name IKECA, then I would have been 100% for them, and/or even including outside voices on their ANSI document so that it truly represents the industry, not just one side of the argument, but they chose specifically to keep it hidden and confidential and at literally at the last minute vote pull the document out and pass a copy around for the NFPA committee to look at.
They want a document that hasn't even been tested in the real world, to be written into the NFPA 96 as the Standard way that everyone should be doing it. Maybe this is the case, but it should be tested for a few years and then proven to be a better document that the industry should follow, not just "we just hit print and here it is...so let's insert it into the document".
Anything that pushes this industry forward, I'm for, anything that pushes a specific brand forward, I'm not for.
I don't care if you get properly trained, qualified and certified from (IKECA, PAC or CHDCA), as long as you get the training, know what you do, and take the time to maintain that level of education via certification, I'm all for it.
So did that answer your question?
RustyACE
President CHDCA
Richard eventually sold his Hood Cleaning Business and moved to Florida. I'm not for sure what he is doing now.
Thanks.
Russell Clark
615-866-0804
RustyACE
President CHDCA
Dear Anthony,
Thanks I really appreciate the thoughts. I'm not on this board as much as I used to be, but let it be known that we continue to grow, and after a decade of doing this it has been a pleasure to get to work with folks such as yourself.
Russell Clark
615-866-0804
RustyACE
President CHDCA
Dear Rome,
I look forward to shaking your hand as well. Thanks again. Phone number is below.
Hood Cleaning School is made up of folks such as yourself, deciding that they would rather have an expert teach them exactly how to do it hands on as a one person business. Our parent company has been cleaning kitchen grease exhaust systems in the Nashville, TN market for over 20 years.
We've had many fake imitators come along and try to ride the Hood Cleaning School train, but they are just scragglers trying to grasp something that was never theirs to begin with and it shows every time they post a silly 'Can I be included too post'. Even going so far as to copy word for word stuff from my website and then passing it off as their original idea and they have the right to steal my stuff with attitude.
It's folks like you that make this all work it.
We have literally trained hundreds of folks from all over the world: http://maps.yourgmap.com/v/x_1h4_CHDCA_Members.html Click on the map to see some of the places.
The competition just doesn't understand, that to build a business, you don't copy another man's work, but you build something from scratch and market it using your own name and then back it up with years of professionalism.
So, thank you again, I truly appreciate it.
Russell Clark
615-866-0804
Hows your program Going?
all this talk about schools and certification
I got certified over 20 years ago. Certified is supposed to mean something to our potential customers, correct. During the time I was "certified" by Black Magic" I can't think of one customer or fire marshal that cared. Not one. All they cared about was price and how it looked after cleaning. Not how clean it was, how it looked superficially.
Since 2010 the state of MA put together its own certification requirements and guidelines. Now everyone cares. Hoods cannot, should not be cleaned by anyone other than licensed technicians. Now certification matters.
The current schools can help you with marketing, which is very important. Introduce you to the different types of equipment, especially the stuff they sell. I wouldn't buy anything until you checked the hood cleaners forums.
They can show you a few types of systems. Seems like every 6 month we come across something we have never seen. They can help you with safety. They should give you the applicable codes. Show you how they clean a hood. Basically stuff you can get from the forums. Then they give you that piece of paper (CERTIFICATION) To me, too rough to be used as toilet paper but thats what the non official certification has been worth.
When the state issues licenses and ID cards and puts the customers ability to operate and their liquor license in jeopardy, well that when certification matters. So if you really need a certificate of certification, from states other than the ones that so it themselves, send me your email and I will whip one up for you. Ya know if you dip it in tea it will look older and more impressive.
I got certified over 20 years ago. Certified is supposed to mean something to our potential customers, correct. During the time I was "certified" by Black Magic" I can't think of one customer or fire marshal that cared. Not one. All they cared about was price and how it looked after cleaning. Not how clean it was, how it looked superficially.
Since 2010 the state of MA put together its own certification requirements and guidelines. Now everyone cares. Hoods cannot, should not be cleaned by anyone other than licensed technicians. Now certification matters.
The current schools can help you with marketing, which is very important. Introduce you to the different types of equipment, especially the stuff they sell. I wouldn't buy anything until you checked the hood cleaners forums.
They can show you a few types of systems. Seems like every 6 month we come across something we have never seen. They can help you with safety. They should give you the applicable codes. Show you how they clean a hood. Basically stuff you can get from the forums. Then they give you that piece of paper (CERTIFICATION) To me, too rough to be used as toilet paper but thats what the non official certification has been worth.
When the state issues licenses and ID cards and puts the customers ability to operate and their liquor license in jeopardy, well that when certification matters. So if you really need a certificate of certification, from states other than the ones that so it themselves, send me your email and I will whip one up for you. Ya know if you dip it in tea it will look older and more impressive.
Hello Rusty
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