IBCs for water supply?

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It's been awhile since anyone discussed Intermediate Bulk Containers, also known as totes. Instead of using one for roof cleaning chems, I got one for water supply when far away from faucets.
Mine has a 2" ball valve on the outlet, which should supply a 4 GPM pwasher pretty well. I just need to figure out what the thread is on the valve so I can start building some adapters. Are those usually threaded for something common in the U.S., or some "international" thread? (Maybe BSP is more common than I realized, but I never heard of it until today.)
Anyone using cam-and-groove (Camlock) fittings?
 
Mine has a 2" female threaded ball valve that came on it. I just ran it 2" right up along side of the unit then reduced to 1" and feed the machine with a 2' poly braid.

All standard IPTs as far as I can tell.


Lot of guys don't like em and I understand why, they can tear up a transmission with all the bangin back and forth, rounds better but mines already integrated onto my little rig.
 
GraffBuster said:
It's been awhile since anyone discussed Intermediate Bulk Containers, also known as totes. Instead of using one for roof cleaning chems, I got one for water supply when far away from faucets.
Mine has a 2" ball valve on the outlet, which should supply a 4 GPM pwasher pretty well. I just need to figure out what the thread is on the valve so I can start building some adapters. Are those usually threaded for something common in the U.S., or some "international" thread? (Maybe BSP is more common than I realized, but I never heard of it until today.)
Anyone using cam-and-groove (Camlock) fittings?
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The one I bought had a different type thread. The person I bought them from actually gave me an adapter for it that was NPT (National Pipe Thread) Mine is 2" So any PVC fitting will fit so reduce it down to your needs. You probably wont find the adapter at Home Depot. My suggestion would be to take the ball valve with you and try a plumbing supply.
 
I read on another thread that if you use that orange plastic temporary fencing and stuff the tank full of it it will work as a baffle. I found a roll the other day that someone was throwing away. I'm going to see if it actually works. Wont hurt to try.
 
Hot Shot Power Clean said:
Mine has a 2" female threaded ball valve that came on it. I just ran it 2" right up along side of the unit then reduced to 1" and feed the machine with a 2' poly braid.
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I kinda like that idea.

All standard IPTs as far as I can tell.
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I hope so. It may vary by manufacturer, but I was getting the impression while Googling around this afternoon that some of them have British Standard Pipe thread on the outlets.

Lot of guys don't like em and I understand why, they can tear up a transmission with all the bangin back and forth, rounds better but mines already integrated onto my little rig.
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I wondered about that, but I figured that the water couldn't slam around that much, even without any baffles. Then I read somebody's post about keeping it either completely full, or completely empty. Ruh roh.
 
I was thinking about going from my IBC tank to a 12v pump then to my pressure washer. I thought of the idea last night because my 12v pump is almost directly in front of my tank. That way I know for sure I am getting water to the washer. I am changing everything to quick connects, that way I can use to 12v for many uses. I hope it works.
 
Exterior Attack PW said:
The one I bought had a different type thread. The person I bought them from actually gave me an adapter for it that was NPT (National Pipe Thread). You probably wont find the adapter at Home Depot. My suggestion would be to take the ball valve with you and try a plumbing supply.
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The original one on yours might have been that BSP stuff. I saw companies selling adapters on the 'Net, including one on eBay, but they all seemed to be in AU, NZ, etc. Seemed to be mostly BSP or whatever to Camlock.

A tad off topic, but I seem to recall at least one FD in my past life that had IPT couplings on their 1½" lines, but NST on everything else. (Although booster lines may have been GHT.) The reasoning behind the IPT was for operating off of interior standpipes, or so the story went.
I guess it's been awhile since anything burned down because neighboring departments didn't have compatible hose couplings.
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I read on another thread that if you use that orange plastic temporary fencing and stuff the tank full of it it will work as a baffle.
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Now why didn't I think of that?
As long as the stuff couldn't get across the inside opening of the valve and restrict the water flow, that would probably work pretty slick.
I'm surprised I don't already have a quantity of that fencing, salvaged before someone threw it out. (Pack rat that I am.)
Thanks, Ken!
 
There are many people on here that use tote tanks I will be one of them soon.

275g To a belt drive should suck just fine, I wouldn't see the need for it to connect to your delvan then to the machine, Hydrostatic pressure on the tank will force the water to the machine as if it were hooked to a water spikit. As the tank slowly starts to empty the line will then create a flow or vacume that will continue to push to the machine as it sucks.

If I could find my red book from halliburton I could give you the exact ammount of force the tank would put out through diffrent opening sizes.

Ill call a friend tomorrow, and get the exact pressure for you, But im pretty sure it will be more than 60 psi that a garden hose puts out.
 
GraffBuster said:
The original one on yours might have been that BSP stuff. I saw companies selling adapters on the 'Net, including one on eBay, but they all seemed to be in AU, NZ, etc. Seemed to be mostly BSP or whatever to Camlock.

A tad off topic, but I seem to recall at least one FD in my past life that had IPT couplings on their 1½" lines, but NST on everything else. (Although booster lines may have been GHT.) The reasoning behind the IPT was for operating off of interior standpipes, or so the story went.
I guess it's been awhile since anything burned down because neighboring departments didn't have compatible hose couplings.
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Now why didn't I think of that?
As long as the stuff couldn't get across the inside opening of the valve and restrict the water flow, that would probably work pretty slick.
I'm surprised I don't already have a quantity of that fencing, salvaged before someone threw it out. (Pack rat that I am.)
Thanks, Ken!
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Thats why all Fire Departments went to standarized threads for that reason. We dont use the hose in standpipes we disconnect and use ours. The could have been tampered with so no telling if they work or not. I found the orange fence that someone was throwing out and it was after someone else posted the idea. I haven't used it yet but it wont hurt to try. Tomorrow and Monday are my days off so I'm going to try some things to see if they work. Experiment day for me
 
PressureWashE said:
There are many people on here that use tote tanks I will be one of them soon.

275g To a belt drive should suck just fine, I wouldn't see the need for it to connect to your delvan then to the machine, Hydrostatic pressure on the tank will force the water to the machine as if it were hooked to a water spikit. As the tank slowly starts to empty the line will then create a flow or vacume that will continue to push to the machine as it sucks.

If I could find my red book from halliburton I could give you the exact ammount of force the tank would put out through diffrent opening sizes.

Ill call a friend tomorrow, and get the exact pressure for you, But im pretty sure it will be more than 60 psi that a garden hose puts out.
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I wasn't too sure on the whole gravity thing or not. I was just thinking about the draw rate. I'm going to try it both ways.
 
My Totes are NPT (all of mine will accept a 2" female pvc pipe). From there I use a T and and one side is a ball valve to dump the tank and the other goes to the machine via a 2/' to 1' reducing bushing. I use a plastic barb and 1'id braided hose for supply lines to all machines over 5 gpm. On the 2 4gpm machines i use 5/8inside diameter braided clear hose for supply.
 
The totes I have seen and the one that I have use a different thread, probably european or something.

The NPT does not work with it and I would like to rig up a fitting to it so I could attach a pump to it. It is a 1.5" or 2" Male thread (I forgot how big it is as I only use it 4 or 6 times a year).

If I could find an adapter for that outlet ball valve I could use that on a little trailer for some special jobs and it would be very handy.

I will try searching the internet this week some more, maybe there is a company here in the USA that has adapters.

The plumbing places here locally do not have any adapters at all.
 
Christopher said:
The totes I have seen and the one that I have use a different thread, probably european or something.

The NPT does not work with it and I would like to rig up a fitting to it so I could attach a pump to it. It is a 1.5" or 2" Male thread (I forgot how big it is as I only use it 4 or 6 times a year).

If I could find an adapter for that outlet ball valve I could use that on a little trailer for some special jobs and it would be very handy.

I will try searching the internet this week some more, maybe there is a company here in the USA that has adapters.

The plumbing places here locally do not have any adapters at all.
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Should take a quick connect fitting and convert to male or female NPT
 
Christopher said:
The totes I have seen and the one that I have use a different thread, probably european or something.

The NPT does not work with it and I would like to rig up a fitting to it so I could attach a pump to it. It is a 1.5" or 2" Male thread (I forgot how big it is as I only use it 4 or 6 times a year).

If I could find an adapter for that outlet ball valve I could use that on a little trailer for some special jobs and it would be very handy.

I will try searching the internet this week some more, maybe there is a company here in the USA that has adapters.

The plumbing places here locally do not have any adapters at all.
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Lots of places seem to have smaller diameter adapters, and/or some that go NPT female to BSP male, but I didn't see much the other way. :(

I had to weed out all the be/cn/cz/de/in/uk stuff, but I think I might have found one more "local." Assuming the oddball threads on some of these are BSP (and to make it worse, there's BSP Parallel and BSP Tapered), take a look at Bosch Hydraulic. They're in Canada (I suspected as much when I saw "catalogue" spelled that way), and you might prefer plastic to brass fittings, but it might work if there's nothing this side of the border. They do have a "2 F BSP X 2 M NPT," #A-2BP55-3232.
It might turn out to be cheaper to just replace the whole valve.
 
Lightning Gene said:
"Should take a quick connect fitting and convert to male or female NPT"

I give up.....
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I hear ya, Gene, but I think it's faking.
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:D

Seriously, though, thanks for the tip. I will check those out.
 
I thought of using a bulkhead fitting but the opening is about 5.5" and the tank is around 3.5' or 4' tall so it would be hard to install.

I might try to figure out a way to have something to hold the bulkhead fitting in place while I tighten it, just a long reach.
 
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Not to jump off the plumbing.... how are you guys securing your tank to the trailer? I was just outside trying to think of a way I was going to do this? thanks Dean
 
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