New Parking Garage Rig

A.TRKWASH said:
i like it alot i always take a peek at t.george podells stuff. i just sent tom some pics of my rig he was curious to see what we were building. he said he has a newer vac system that is not on his site that is a new design and he will be unveiling it at some show this weekend ... they def build some nice stuff..
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Chris,
When you say "Tom" are you referring to Tom Vogel?? I know he sells Hydrotek Washers and Reclaimers. Do you know what show that you say is going on this weekend. If its not far from my house I may scoot out to check it out. How many CFM's does your vacuum on your truck handle and what do you think is a reccommended CFM that we should be dealing with. I heard the number is around 200CFM's.
 
hey john i was talking about tom durbin from t george podell. i spoke to him 2 days ago . i was inquiring about a water recovery tool . instead of building one myself i would like to save the time and buy one off the shelf. i am not sure where the show is located but it would def be too far for us. my vac unit is around 240 cfm's . my vac was not tested but with the lamb motors in in and design my guess is very close. im gonna agree that the normal cfms used in the industry is mid 200's . again i am just reclaiming water from a puddle. alot of other guys i hear with surface spinners are not 2 happy with 200 cfm and feel like there is alot of water still left behind...
 
AspenPW said:
Nigel,
The new swabby set up has 2 arms/ 1 bar. Its a pretty awesome set up. I saw it in action about a month back now. I dont think Bill has many pictures of it yet other than what has been seen so far. He may do a demo in Orlando though.
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Were did you see it?,What is the price. Bill C told me he may have the 36" rider whisper washer there too.

Clean County PW said:
I have the older much more expensive Swabby that has the bars belt driven. Under my swabby is 2 bars/4 arms. I have since parted ways with the reclaiming set-up trailer that I initally bought with the swabby. I am actually Eye balling the above reclaiming set-up and I already got prices of how much they would build it for me without the Powerwasher since I already have a spare 8gpm hot water Mi-t-m that could go on there.
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Bill C, was saying that the new one has less problems with respect to cleaning finish. Why have you done away with the reclaiming set-up?

Christopher said:
Rex from Pressure Washer Products builds the recovery systems, you just have to talk to him about what your purpose is.

He does not build enough to mass-produce them but he does know what he is doing, give him a call.
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Who has he build for Chris? Good info, Any photos?

A.TRKWASH said:
i like it alot i always take a peek at t.george podells stuff. i just sent tom some pics of my rig he was curious to see what we were building. he said he has a newer vac system that is not on his site that is a new design and he will be unveiling it at some show this weekend ... they def build some nice stuff..
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I always check him from time to time also, I remember his fist trailer setups on ebay, he has refined the systems a great deal.

Clean County PW said:
Chris,
When you say "Tom" are you referring to Tom Vogel?? I know he sells Hydrotek Washers and Reclaimers. Do you know what show that you say is going on this weekend. If its not far from my house I may scoot out to check it out. How many CFM's does your vacuum on your truck handle and what do you think is a reccommended CFM that we should be dealing with. I heard the number is around 200CFM's.
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Couple weeks ago I called mosmatic staff says that 230 cfm is a "good" number for the 21" vac SC. I guess that would be, pushing no more than 6gpm in it since they advertise it with 1503 nozzles
 
The electric system I have is the Nikro Dual head: http://www.nikro.com/mold_remediation/dp55230.htm

It has 230 CFM and 110" of water lift and it does great with my Steel Eagle 24" surface cleaner. It does not come with a pump-out system, I installed that with help from my friend Alan S. in California.

This was vacuum was bought and modifications were built for right at or just a little bit under $1000.00 for everything.

It is not as good as a Steel Eagle Fury system or Scirocco but it will do the job until I have enought work to justify spending more on a larger system.


I do not have any pictures of rigs Rex has built, I will have to ask Lori about that to see if they do.
 
hey chris post them when you get a chance i would love to see it .....
 
Bill C, was saying that the new one has less problems with respect to cleaning finish. Why have you done away with the reclaiming set-up?

I sold the reclaiming system because the person who bought it needed it yesterday. So I sold it to him and it worked out good for the both of us.
 
Christopher said:
The electric system I have is the Nikro Dual head: http://www.nikro.com/mold_remediation/dp55230.htm

It has 230 CFM and 110" of water lift and it does great with my Steel Eagle 24" surface cleaner. It does not come with a pump-out system, I installed that with help from my friend Alan S. in California.

This was vacuum was bought and modifications were built for right at or just a little bit under $1000.00 for everything.

It is not as good as a Steel Eagle Fury system or Scirocco but it will do the job until I have enought work to justify spending more on a larger system.


I do not have any pictures of rigs Rex has built, I will have to ask Lori about that to see if they do.
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Chris how many gpm where you running the SC, and what is the pump out capacity against vac.
 
I was using the Hotsy Hot Water rig, 5.6gpm at 3000psi.

The pumpout is rated at something like 20gpm, more or less using a smart pump.
 
I heard that an electric vacuum system is not strong enough and that there average at best. When I get back into the reclaiming end I want at leat a 25hp engine driving that vacuum so I Can get the higher CFM's. For what I want to do I will need alot of CFM's.

Here's a question is there a way to dial down the CFM's when you dont need so much?? I remember using my Steele Eagle surface machine and the 250CFM's were enough to cause such a suction so it was hard to push the Surface machine. But on the Swabby I want alot of CFM's because its self driven with alot of power and I want alot of suction force when cruising with the swabby.
 
Christopher said:
I was using the Hotsy Hot Water rig, 5.6gpm at 3000psi.

The pumpout is rated at something like 20gpm, more or less using a smart pump.
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Thanks Chris

Clean County PW said:
I heard that an electric vacuum system is not strong enough and that there average at best. When I get back into the reclaiming end I want at leat a 25hp engine driving that vacuum so I Can get the higher CFM's. For what I want to do I will need alot of CFM's.

Here's a question is there a way to dial down the CFM's when you dont need so much?? I remember using my Steele Eagle surface machine and the 250CFM's were enough to cause such a suction so it was hard to push the Surface machine. But on the Swabby I want alot of CFM's because its self driven with alot of power and I want alot of suction force when cruising with the swabby.
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Check with any of the big 4 they can give yo what you what John. I think vacuum cfm can be adjusted in two ways, adjusting the vac unit rpms (manufacture suggested), and by the vacuum breaker something like an unloader.
 
Clean County PW said:
I heard that an electric vacuum system is not strong enough and that there average at best. When I get back into the reclaiming end I want at leat a 25hp engine driving that vacuum so I Can get the higher CFM's. For what I want to do I will need alot of CFM's.

Here's a question is there a way to dial down the CFM's when you dont need so much?? I remember using my Steele Eagle surface machine and the 250CFM's were enough to cause such a suction so it was hard to push the Surface machine. But on the Swabby I want alot of CFM's because its self driven with alot of power and I want alot of suction force when cruising with the swabby.
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I have the same problem with my electric vacuum recovery system with the 24" Steel Eagle Vacuum Surface cleaner.

When you have the 24" Steel Eagle Vacuum surface cleaner, on each of the castor wheels there is an adjustment nut to lower or raise the deck from the surface, do all 4 and that will fix most of your problem.

When I put it together out of the box I gave it a try and I could not move it at all but then I looked and saw the adjustment nuts on the caster wheels and adjusted them and then it was a little bit better.

I did not want it moving too easy or it would not vacuum as good (I was thinking) so I left it where it was.

One thing about the Electric motors for Vacuum Recovery is that you need to let them cool down every hour for a little bit because they are electric and have a duty rating of only so long.

With the Electric system I have, I have run 200' of 2" Steel Eagle Vacuum hose with the 24" Steel Eagle Vacuum Surface Cleaner and it does a great job so 200' with the electric unit is good.

Another problem is electricity, you have 2 motors that use 13 amps each so they have to be on different circuits and the smart sump pump pulls 9 amps so all 3 electric cords have to be on different circuits from each other or you are popping breakers constantly.

I have a generator on the trailer that can handle that easily but I like the drum where the work is to keep an eye on it.
 
Clean County PW said:
I heard that an electric vacuum system is not strong enough and that there average at best. When I get back into the reclaiming end I want at leat a 25hp engine driving that vacuum so I Can get the higher CFM's. For what I want to do I will need alot of CFM's.

Here's a question is there a way to dial down the CFM's when you dont need so much?? I remember using my Steele Eagle surface machine and the 250CFM's were enough to cause such a suction so it was hard to push the Surface machine. But on the Swabby I want alot of CFM's because its self driven with alot of power and I want alot of suction force when cruising with the swabby.
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Hey John sorry I missed your call. I will call you when I get back to Maryland.

Christopher said:
I have the same problem with my electric vacuum recovery system with the 24" Steel Eagle Vacuum Surface cleaner.

When you have the 24" Steel Eagle Vacuum surface cleaner, on each of the castor wheels there is an adjustment nut to lower or raise the deck from the surface, do all 4 and that will fix most of your problem.

When I put it together out of the box I gave it a try and I could not move it at all but then I looked and saw the adjustment nuts on the caster wheels and adjusted them and then it was a little bit better.

I did not want it moving too easy or it would not vacuum as good (I was thinking) so I left it where it was.

One thing about the Electric motors for Vacuum Recovery is that you need to let them cool down every hour for a little bit because they are electric and have a duty rating of only so long.

With the Electric system I have, I have run 200' of 2" Steel Eagle Vacuum hose with the 24" Steel Eagle Vacuum Surface Cleaner and it does a great job so 200' with the electric unit is good.

Another problem is electricity, you have 2 motors that use 13 amps each so they have to be on different circuits and the smart sump pump pulls 9 amps so all 3 electric cords have to be on different circuits from each other or you are popping breakers constantly.

I have a generator on the trailer that can handle that easily but I like the drum where the work is to keep an eye on it.
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Good info Chris.
 
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This unit was a custom built unit for a guy in Texas. He actually uses a Cyclone 4500HD to do most of his cleaning. He needed our wash water recycling system to process the water from the Cyclone as it has inadequate filtration for large projects. He pumps his water out of the cyclone through the recycling system and pumps the recycled water back into the Cyclone. He didn't even really need a pressure washer but he purchased it anyway for areas that might be hard to navigate with the Cyclone. This unit is fine flowise for a single operator. I can build a pressure washing system to fit any GPM want or need. I have hot water blasters that are 10 or 12 gpm. However when you go that high in flow it is always better to have two machines. A pressure washer is like all equipment and will eventually break. If you put all of your eggs in one basket, when it breaks you are down. That is why I prefer two machines in a high flow situation. Like I said I have sold many 10 gpm units but it is usually with another 10 gpm unit on the same trailer. As far as easy to copy why try when the engineering is already done. We sell the recycling equipment separately and can give you any CFM you want on the recovery side. This is a recycling unit that can handle dirt load and has a recovery system that can't be beat. Believe me when I say this we tried to buy this type of equipment before we built our system. I could not buy a decent recovery and recycling package anywere that would handle any kind of dirt load. That is the most important part and all of these other guys that have never been on the business end of a pressure washer gun just weren't providing reliable equipment that worked.
 
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