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RGilliam said:
Some States Require USDOT Numbers

In select states (see green highlighted states or list below), all registrants of commercial motor vehicles, even intrastate and non-Motor Carrier registrants, are required to obtain a USDOT Number as a necessary condition for commercial vehicle registration

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, New York, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.



You guys ever see a car driving around with a DOT number on it? Or a F-250? I see them all the time. I got that off of http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/registration-USDOT.htm
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BINGO! Yah buddy you cross that bridge pulling a trailer and lettered up you better have a DOT # on there some where. My Ops manager got busted a few months ago in Clarksville pulling the mowing trailer loaded. He followed them to the account and said "you might wanna get some DOT # before you come across that bridge again" LOL
 
So are you saying, because the GVWR of my vehicle, I'd have to have a DOT # even if I didnt use it for business....so If I lived in this thing, I'd still need a DOT. Alot of RVs are Class 6 vehicles. 19,501 to 26,000 pounds is a class 6. I never see them with DOT #. If Im not understanding what you are saying, please elaborate!

This is why I need a DOT #. ITS A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE, its registered to my business. Some states require all commercial vehicles to be registered! Check it out! Has nothing to do with the wieght rating. If I had a NPR it wouldnt change, or a F-450!
 
RGilliam said:
Alot of RVs are Class 6 vehicles. 19,501 to 26,000 pounds is a class 6. I never see them with DOT #.
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Thats a whole different fish of a different color...They are titled as recreational vehicles and do not require CDLs or DOT classifications. You can have a 45 ft Provost Bus titled as a motor home pulling a 15 ft enclosed trailer with a car in it, and never need a CDL or DOT (very stupid if you ask my opinon) as long as they are using it as a motorhome and dont have the seats in it. The moment he pays a driver, the driver has to have a CDL.

I am glad you choose to get your US DOT #.....It seems like it is the right thing for you to do in your situation.....
 
Yep, its required in my state


Some States Require USDOT Numbers

In select states (see green highlighted states or list below), all registrants of commercial motor vehicles, even intrastate and non-Motor Carrier registrants, are required to obtain a USDOT Number as a necessary condition for commercial vehicle registration

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, New York, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.
 
Straight from their website:

What is a USDOT Number?

Companies that operate commercial vehicles transporting passengers or hauling cargo in interstate commerce must be registered with the FMCSA and must have a USDOT Number. Also, commercial intrastate hazardous materials carriers who haul quantities requiring a safety permit must register for a USDOT Number. The USDOT Number serves as a unique identifier when collecting and monitoring a company's safety information acquired during audits, compliance reviews, crash investigations, and inspections


Federal DOT laws were made for commercial transportation of goods and passengers. Your employees are not paying passengers like on a bus anymore than your wife is. The law was made for those who are in the business of delivering goods, not for businesses travelling with their own property. Your state may have gone past that, just like they may have gone past the EPA rules, and made stricter rules.

This is what happens when you invite the devil into your pocketbook.

I know for a fact that as a company SERVICE vehicle registered in the state of Nevada I can travel Anywhere in Nevada, California, Arizona and Utah without any DOT numbers and each time you pull into a weigh station just to make sure they laugh at me and ask where I'm hiding the merchandise I'm transporting.

I'm sure glad I live here.
 
I just got finished reading about other states. It's nuts. Just another money grab for the states.

All those unnecessary rules to make everyone doing business a criminal while any 90 year old grandpa can drive this all over the country.

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I think U guys are getting confused with weigh stations and DOT #'s. They are not the same thing but are used for 2 totally different purposes. That may get a laugh at the weigh stations you drive thru Tony, but I travel a lot around the country and some states would not be laughing. They want ALL vehicles of any commercial purpose driving thru there. The signs on the freeways say so. They even want rental moving trucks which are usually exempt to go thru (that was one trick guys used to use to haul overweight loads). A car that carrys certain types of hazardous substances can become a commercial vehicle, so it has nothing to do with the size. Clear Shine, don't get mad for me saying this, but your truck is clearly not for personal use. It was manufactured for commercial use and obviously that is what you're using it for. What weight rating do you have it licensed for? It must be over 12,000#. In most states that fits the definition of a commercial vehicle. In addition, your trailer could very easily exceed the 10,000# weight rating; 3500# on each axle, 3000# tougue weight. Now we're talking Class A license. Some people will license it for less thinking that they can skirt under the law but when they do get busted it's massive fines and even jail time. Just today the DOT had another "sting" operation going on only 3 miles from our shop pulling over rigs like yours and less, and the parking lot was full of out-of-service and ticketed vehicles/drivers. I don't want you guys thinking that we are happy about the regs that are in place. I just don't want you guys to find out the hard way. Money is hard enough to come by these days without giving it to Uncle Sam.
 
Tony Shelton said:
I just got finished reading about other states. It's nuts. Just another money grab for the states.

All those unnecessary rules to make everyone doing business a criminal while any 90 year old grandpa can drive this all over the country.
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I see that all the time and I agree with U. I don't understand how that can be legal. They have no way of seeing what is going on back there. At least with a motorhome you have cameras that you can use to watch it all happen.
 
'Not personal use' is a freakin wide net. Commercial vehicle means the business is on the road - hauling something. A 'work' vehicle traveling to a job should not be 'commercial' vehicle. But then again a personal use vehicle should never be licensed but here we are - Show me your papers!
 
Biodude said:
I think U guys are getting confused with weigh stations and DOT #'s. They are not the same thing but are used for 2 totally different purposes. That may get a laugh at the weigh stations you drive thru Tony, but I travel a lot around the country and some states would not be laughing. They want ALL vehicles of any commercial purpose driving thru there. The signs on the freeways say so. They even want rental moving trucks which are usually exempt to go thru (that was one trick guys used to use to haul overweight loads). A car that carrys certain types of hazardous substances can become a commercial vehicle, so it has nothing to do with the size. Clear Shine, don't get mad for me saying this, but your truck is clearly not for personal use. It was manufactured for commercial use and obviously that is what you're using it for. What weight rating do you have it licensed for? It must be over 12,000#. In most states that fits the definition of a commercial vehicle. In addition, your trailer could very easily exceed the 10,000# weight rating; 3500# on each axle, 3000# tougue weight. Now we're talking Class A license. Some people will license it for less thinking that they can skirt under the law but when they do get busted it's massive fines and even jail time. Just today the DOT had another "sting" operation going on only 3 miles from our shop pulling over rigs like yours and less, and the parking lot was full of out-of-service and ticketed vehicles/drivers. I don't want you guys thinking that we are happy about the regs that are in place. I just don't want you guys to find out the hard way. Money is hard enough to come by these days without giving it to Uncle Sam.
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My wife owned a business for 10 years that we sold last year. Her job was to make sure her customers were legal 100% and they paid her well for that. If she didn't get the answers right for her commercial customers (from semi's to pickup trucks pulling those portable road signs) she could be held liable for any damages. Here are some interesting facts about Nevada.
1) Anything under 26,000 doesn't need commercial plates or DOT numbers for intrastate work.
2) Anything under 26k doesn't need to be licensed as a motor carrier.
3) Any trailer under 72 inches wide that is a dedicated piece of equipment does not even have to be titled OR registered or have plates of any kind.(steam cleaning equipment or pressure washing is expressly included in this category as is aerial lifts, asphalt equipment, etc) Neither our trailer lift or one of our trailer units need plates or registration.
4) Our state doesn't offer or require commercial plates for anything smaller than 26k.
5) Triples, like the fifth wheel and boat are perfectly legal.

I love freedom!
 
You got #5 wrong Tony. The picture are talking about is actually a set of doubles (the truck and 2 trailers). I'm not picking on you Tony but you are correct though in 1 way, you can pull triples in Nevada.
 
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