Noise, won't start

[Tony Shelton]

Any ideas about this noise before I start tearing this thing down?

Stopped working mid day. Started up for a minute or so (rough) then wouldn't start again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b8dX_vfaqI&feature=youtube_gdata_player



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[Tony Shelton]

Oil good, air filter good, gas cap good.

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["Red"]

Sounds like the starter's gone bad. Is it actually turning over? Can you pull start it?

 

[Tony Shelton]

Sounds like the starter's gone bad. Is it actually turning over? Can you pull start it?

I will try that. It is turning plenty to start though.

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[Rapid HotClean]

Tony, is that a Lifan.

 

[Tony Shelton]

Tony, is that a Lifan.

Lol. 20hp Honda.

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[Rapid HotClean]

I assume you have spark so it's a fuel issue. Stuck carburetor floats? Intake valve not opening?

 

[Osoto]

Do the plugs have spark? Are the plugs clean? I don't hear anything that sounds abnormal. Must've posted the same time as Ted.

 

[Tony Shelton]

You guys can't hear that hard clicking noise as it tries to turn over? You can actually feel it on the chassis. I have had fuel and spark issues before, but never heard or felt anything like that

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[greg/sd]

It is either a weak battery or a bad ground or positive connection the clicking sound gave it away. clean the connections and I bet it will start right up.

 

[Russ Johnson]

Pull the plugs and stick a screwdriver in the hole. Turn the engine slowly to see if both pistons are moving.

The starter doesn't sound great either.

Might check to see if the flywheel is where it's supposed to be.

 

[Rapid HotClean]

I'd also pull the valve cover and see if a rocker arm has worked lose. Last week one of my machines had the same die and not start symptoms and that was what was wrong.

Agree with Russ though, that noise ain't good.

 

[Tony Shelton]

Thanks guys! I will try all that later today or tomorrow morning.

The lesson validated is to always have backups. The guys just had to swap trucks and go back out on the road again. Only lost about 20 minutes.

Like Ron told me on the phone this morning, the money they made with the backup truck today can pay for a new motor if needed.

Always have backup. A craigslist rig and an old truck can be had for less money than you can make in two days work.

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[Tony Shelton]

Both pistons moving

Getting plenty of oil

Spark plugs look OK

Rocker arms and rods look OK. None seem too tight.

How do I check the flywheel?

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[Russ Johnson]

Take the fan cover off.

 

[Tony Shelton]

OK, the noise is the starter popping in and out. Also some gunk in the fuel line before the filter. Cleared that up.

I am sure it will start now.

What about that starter popping in and out. Do I need to worry about that?

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[Russ Johnson]

Does your battery have a good charge on it?

If it's not the battery, you may very well be worrying about it soon.

 

[Tony Shelton]

Does your battery have a good charge on it?

If it's not the battery, you may very well be worrying about it soon.

I will charge the battery and see what happens. Text me the damage Russ.

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[tomtucson]

Sounds like a turkey call! I always just clean all the connections involved, good wire scrub, can't even count how many times it's fixed something 12v.

 

[tomtucson]

thanks guys! I will try all that later today or tomorrow morning.

The lesson validated is to always have backups. The guys just had to swap trucks and go back out on the road again. Only lost about 20 minutes.

Like ron told me on the phone this morning, the money they made with the backup truck today can pay for a new motor if needed.

Always have backup. A craigslist rig and an old truck can be had for less money than you can make in two days work.

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