Doug Rucker
Roundtable Host 2009
Been using this a couple months now and loving it.
Is this the Water Dragon Low Pressure/High Volume Applicator from Power Wash Store? I was just looking at these today.
In your opinion, what are the benefits of a gas powered roof system over the traditional roof pumps?
Putting out the gpms nice Doug just wondering how it wil hold up in the long haul.
Yeah what is it? Can you use various orifice nozzles like going to smaller orifices to lower flow like with an air diaphram pump. Or is there some way to regulate the flow?
If it were "better", we would have it Andy. Been there, done that, with Gas Powered diaphragm pumps, of every conceivable design, and manufacture. Udor, Hypro, John Blue, Comet, Bean, Hydra Flow, etc, etc, etc.I have thought for a long time that set up was the way to go. eliminates the air compressor
Been using this a couple months now and loving it.
Chris I expect you personally have clean more roofs than anyone one here, and you certainly have a wealth of knowledge about roof cleaning and roof cleaning equipment. I think it would be interesting if you did a thread sometimes explaining how the air pump works and if it had other uses. I for one don't know all the advantages of the air condenser pumps vs everything else. Thanks for coming by from time to time sharing your insights.If it were "better", we would have it Andy. Been there, done that, with Gas Powered diaphragm pumps, of every conceivable design, and manufacture. Udor, Hypro, John Blue, Comet, Bean, Hydra Flow, etc, etc, etc.
Yes, they do spray like a Male Cat, just not for long!
Their weaknesses are many, stainless steel valves and springs, to name just a few.
We even went to having our stainless steel valve springs custom made for us, out of freaklng Hastelloy!
This helped solve the valve spring problem, but they still did not last very long.
These pumps must be bypassed back into the tank, to relieve pressure, both a blessing, and a curse.
The bypass aids in agitation for your mix, but if a bypass hose breaks or gets loose, watch out, especially if you are up on a roof.
I had one break on me, and by the time we could get to the rig to shut the pump down, it marinated nearly 1/4 of the block with the Love!
Larry Millette also had one of these kinds of pumps, and he said never again.
But then, both Larry and I are real roof cleaners, who really do clean a ton of roofs, not 2 or 3 a week.
Our Trucks average 3 roofs a day, and many are tile roofs. These pumps just can't take what we dish out, for very long.
Larry Millette has went to the trusty air diaphragm pumps, and shit canned his gas powered diaphragm pump many years ago, as we have been using and suggesting for many years.
These Gas Powered diaphragm pumps are not cheap!
You need a motor, and a transmission, and then the pump itself. You can easily approach 1500.00 or more, for a roof cleaning pump that is basically doomed, on borrowed time, as soon as the chlorine contacts all the incompatible parts in it.
My advice, is to avoid these pumps. Several importers of these pumps can get aggressive with their marketing of them, from time to time.
One Importer, Udor, flat ripped me off for nearly 4 grand on 2 of their "roof cleaning pumps' that were supposedly "guaranteed for chlorine" use!
Both pumps started failing in a few weeks! Udor did send out all kinds of replacement parts, manifolds, valve springs, etc, etc, etc, until Gordon from Udor finally told me "Chris, this is the last of your warranty" and then refused to help us anymore!
He put the blame for the pumps inability to hold up to the chemicals, on US!
He said no one else was having any trouble.
I told him "look, just because some so called wanna be roof cleaner does a few roofs a week, does not mean the pumps will hold up to the demands of a real roof cleaning company"
He told me I was "On MY Own", from now on, though we were only 4 months into the "1 Year Warranty", and most of that was with broken down pumps!
Udor are rip offs, who cost us not only nearly 4 grand, but 4 times that in lost roof cleaning business, because I was stupid enough to trust these crooks.
LOL, if anyone is stupid enough to buy a Udor Roof Cleaning Pump, let me know! I STILL have the broken down pumps in my shed, and the transmissions too.
Well thank you very much for the kind words.Chris I expect you personally have clean more roofs than anyone one here, and you certainly have a wealth of knowledge about roof cleaning and roof cleaning equipment. I think it would be interesting if you did a thread sometimes explaining how the air pump works and if it had other uses. I for one don't know all the advantages of the air condenser pumps vs everything else. Thanks for coming by from time to time sharing your insights.
Do i see a Tool I use at the top of Ladder?
Chris, what is the brand name/model of that inexpensive polypropylene air diaphragm pump that is less than $100?
This sounds interesting.
Thanks.
Call me at 813 655 8777 Chris, any day from 11 am till 11 pm Florida time, I will share it with you, since we go way way back. I don't think our premium members at the RCIA will mind me helping an old friend like you.Chris, what is the brand name/model of that inexpensive polypropylene air diaphragm pump that is less than $100?
This sounds interesting.
Thanks.
If it were "better", we would have it Andy. Been there, done that, with Gas Powered diaphragm pumps, of every conceivable design, and manufacture. Udor, Hypro, John Blue, Comet, Bean, Hydra Flow, etc, etc, etc.
Yes, they do spray like a Male Cat, just not for long!
Their weaknesses are many, stainless steel valves and springs, to name just a few.
We even went to having our stainless steel valve springs custom made for us, out of freaklng Hastelloy!
This helped solve the valve spring problem, but they still did not last very long.
These pumps must be bypassed back into the tank, to relieve pressure, both a blessing, and a curse.
The bypass aids in agitation for your mix, but if a bypass hose breaks or gets loose, watch out, especially if you are up on a roof.
I had one break on me, and by the time we could get to the rig to shut the pump down, it marinated nearly 1/4 of the block with the Love!
Larry Millette also had one of these kinds of pumps, and he said never again.
But then, both Larry and I are real roof cleaners, who really do clean a ton of roofs, not 2 or 3 a week.
Our Trucks average 3 roofs a day, and many are tile roofs. These pumps just can't take what we dish out, for very long.
Larry Millette has went to the trusty air diaphragm pumps, and shit canned his gas powered diaphragm pump many years ago, as we have been using and suggesting for many years.
These Gas Powered diaphragm pumps are not cheap!
You need a motor, and a transmission, and then the pump itself. You can easily approach 1500.00 or more, for a roof cleaning pump that is basically doomed, on borrowed time, as soon as the chlorine contacts all the incompatible parts in it.
My advice, is to avoid these pumps. Several importers of these pumps can get aggressive with their marketing of them, from time to time.
One Importer, Udor, flat ripped me off for nearly 4 grand on 2 of their "roof cleaning pumps' that were supposedly "guaranteed for chlorine" use!
Both pumps started failing in a few weeks! Udor did send out all kinds of replacement parts, manifolds, valve springs, etc, etc, etc, until Gordon from Udor finally told me "Chris, this is the last of your warranty" and then refused to help us anymore!
He put the blame for the pumps inability to hold up to the chemicals, on US!
He said no one else was having any trouble.
I told him "look, just because some so called wanna be roof cleaner does a few roofs a week, does not mean the pumps will hold up to the demands of a real roof cleaning company"
He told me I was "On MY Own", from now on, though we were only 4 months into the "1 Year Warranty", and most of that was with broken down pumps!
Udor are rip offs, who cost us not only nearly 4 grand, but 4 times that in lost roof cleaning business, because I was stupid enough to trust these crooks.
LOL, if anyone is stupid enough to buy a Udor Roof Cleaning Pump, let me know! I STILL have the broken down pumps in my shed, and the transmissions too.