Question for all the "Environmental" cleaners VIDEO FIXED

Tony Shelton

Tony Shelton

BS Detector, Esquire
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Here' my question. You've bought the vacuum equipment. You want to cash in on that.

You advertise all over your websites about the CWA and how the EPA is going to fine companies that don't use "compliant" cleaners.

Take a look at this video. Do you understand that the EPA has no jurisdiction over this property under these circumstances?

Do you think it is morally acceptable to "frighten" all your potential customers into using your service by using fear based advertising that isn't based on facts?

If you believe the EPA has jurisdiction and can fine either this company or our company for this runoff please respond and explain how.

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I own a vacuum system, and it gets used. I do not use it to sell, by saying they are all going to jail if they don't use me. I think at best that is a weak sales argument. I use my vacuum system to be compliant with my contracts, to speed my cleaning process, and provide a sustainable, low water usage system of cleaning parking garages and structures in the Phoenix, Arizona metropolitan area. Amazingly, most people in the parking industry, at least in Phoenix, understand the issues with garage cleaning, and want the potential hazards removed, at an economical price.
 
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with picking up water. I do it myself in the course of my business. But what I am saying is that it is outright WRONG to advertise falsely to frighten a customer into using your service. I haven't seen you doing that Scott. You don't clean any garages anyway so it really doesn't matter - right? :)
 
I say if you swept large debris and used a curb filter as option your actually reducing the owners liability when it does rain.

As far as the original answer your inside containment and the CWA does not exist. You have actually provided a safer cleaning process than using a vacuum in this specific situation.

The owner has a greater liability if a contractor does not dispose of hazards properly. The property is built to contain his liability and keep him compliant with the CWA.
 
This property is swept every night by the sweeping company. In this case we blew all the garbage and other junk that might eventually make it's way to the storm drains to clog them, wet the stuff down so it would sit tight until the sweeper comes by and vacuums it up.

It's a beautiful thing and we didn't have to use a single additional small engine or even a gallon of extra gas to be completely compliant AND an asset to the environment.
 
Tony Shelton said:
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with picking up water. I do it myself in the course of my business. But what I am saying is that it is outright WRONG to advertise falsely to frighten a customer into using your service. I haven't seen you doing that Scott. You don't clean any garages anyway so it really doesn't matter - right? :)
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That makes me wonder why I have that big trailer sitting in my yard, along with the 40" ride on surface cleaner. No wonder there is so much dust on them...NOT.
 
Did you know that the property by city code enforcement has to be swept?

Tony Shelton said:
This property is swept every night by the sweeping company. In this case we blew all the garbage and other junk that might eventually make it's way to the storm drains to clog them, wet the stuff down so it would sit tight until the sweeper comes by and vacuums it up.

It's a beautiful thing and we didn't have to use a single additional small engine or even a gallon of extra gas to be completely compliant AND an asset to the environment.
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Scott Stone said:
I own a vacuum system, and it gets used. I do not use it to sell, by saying they are all going to jail if they don't use me. I think at best that is a weak sales argument. I use my vacuum system to be compliant with my contracts, to speed my cleaning process, and provide a sustainable, low water usage system of cleaning parking garages and structures in the Phoenix, Arizona metropolitan area. Amazingly, most people in the parking industry, at least in Phoenix, understand the issues with garage cleaning, and want the potential hazards removed, at an economical price.
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Exactly, recollection is not always required to be compliant with CWA but to comply with customers requirements. I do recollection work in Milwaukee and throughout Wisconsin to speed up some of my jobs and to be compliant with customers like Ryder. It also helps to sell additional work like inside tile cleaning as well as warehouses and loading docks.
 
Keep in mind Paul that Washing fleets is a different animal, washing contaminants off vehicles onto the ground is polluting. Wash water from vehicles need recycled, this is why ryder wants you to have the equipment. If you don't use it they are not as liable and claim they told you it was required. Knowingly they understand that most wash companies are not ever going to use it unless someone presses the issue.

Fleets and mobile detailing are very different from washing a simple sidewalk in a shopping center that has containment.

According to the clean water act private properties meeting certain specs are required by law to not allow storm water discharge. (PERIOD)

Paul Kassander said:
Exactly, recollection is not always required to be compliant with CWA but to comply with customers requirements. I do recollection work in Milwaukee and throughout Wisconsin to speed up some of my jobs and to be compliant with customers like Ryder. It also helps to sell additional work like inside tile cleaning as well as warehouses and loading docks.
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