That wcr store is a joke...

Again I will use the example of Carlos Gonzales who found grace and immediately went to work righting mistakes he made from the past even though most of his mistakes were simply mistakes with no ill will intended. These other guys aren't fit to tie Carlos' shoes yet they still talk bad about him.

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I love watching Dan and the peanut gallery making this about me. For the record - yes I did call the WCR forum a sales funnel (Chris called it that himself to me many times), yes I was a salesperson for WCR, no it wasn't a revenue stream as some are calling it. Yes I started a school and like every other window cleaner in the world I'm passing along things that I learned from others.
Now that we have covered that maybe we can get back to the original point of this discussion.
 
mistersqueegee said:
I love watching Dan and the peanut gallery making this about me. For the record - yes I did call the WCR forum a sales funnel (Chris called it that himself to me many times), yes I was a salesperson for WCR, no it wasn't a revenue stream as some are calling it. Yes I started a school and like every other window cleaner in the world I'm passing along things that I learned from others.
Now that we have covered that maybe we can get back to the original point of this discussion.
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Tony you mean if you charge someone for something this is wrong?


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Tony Said
"Back to religion... Jesus never forgave anyone who didn't admit wrong and ask for it. EVER. "

I find this statement interesting, I always wondered about that, here in luke 23;3 to me it seems like Jesus is forgiving the very people that are putting him on the cross
Luke 23:34

New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]34 [/SUP]Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”[SUP][a][/SUP]
And they divided His garments and cast lots.

maybe you can help me understand that a little better. I know with out a doubt if someone repents forgiviness is a must, no matter how many times the seek it, forgiveness is a must. BUt as you suggestead if they do not repent must we still forgive??
 
dave mac said:
Tony Said
"Back to religion... Jesus never forgave anyone who didn't admit wrong and ask for it. EVER. "

I find this statement interesting, I always wondered about that, here in luke 23;3 to me it seems like Jesus is forgiving the very people that are putting him on the cross
Luke 23:34

New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]34 [/SUP]Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”[SUP][a][/SUP]
And they divided His garments and cast lots.

maybe you can help me understand that a little better. I know with out a doubt if someone repents forgiviness is a must, no matter how many times the seek it, forgiveness is a must. BUt as you suggestead if they do not repent must we still forgive??
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yes otherwise the Hatred will Destroy you
 
dave mac said:
Tony Said
"Back to religion... Jesus never forgave anyone who didn't admit wrong and ask for it. EVER. "

I find this statement interesting, I always wondered about that, here in luke 23;3 to me it seems like Jesus is forgiving the very people that are putting him on the cross
Luke 23:34

New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]34 [/SUP]Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”[SUP][a][/SUP]
And they divided His garments and cast lots.

maybe you can help me understand that a little better. I know with out a doubt if someone repents forgiviness is a must, no matter how many times the seek it, forgiveness is a must. BUt as you suggestead if they do not repent must we still forgive??
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Dave, the difference here is that the ones who hanged Jesus on the torture stake didn't realize they were putting an innocent man to death. The Jewish religious leaders who instigated this were beyond forgiveness.
 
mistersqueegee said:
I love watching Dan and the peanut gallery making this about me. For the record - yes I did call the WCR forum a sales funnel (Chris called it that himself to me many times), yes I was a salesperson for WCR, no it wasn't a revenue stream as some are calling it. Yes I started a school and like every other window cleaner in the world I'm passing along things that I learned from others.
Now that we have covered that maybe we can get back to the original point of this discussion.
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PM sent to you, Tony.
 
Hey guys I must apologize for my actions here on this board and starting alittle fire on here . I appreciate your responses and in no way do I carry my problems wether it's family or just life in general into my business and customers. I joined softwash systems here and the uamc for two reason only, to learn as much as I can from the old heads ( railroad term for veteran) and to pass my knowledge to anyone who needs its. Thanks everybody for making me alittle bit stronger and wiser about certain situations that I may incounter in life.
 
danwagner said:
Dave, the difference here is that the ones who hanged Jesus on the torture stake didn't realize they were putting an innocent man to death. The Jewish religious leaders who instigated this were beyond forgiveness.
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And those who did it in ignorance were confronted with their sins and 3000 of them said they were sorry and did something about it. Acts 2:38+.

Those were the ones forgiven.

That is the point I was trying to make.

Time did not forgive them. Their confession and repentance 50 days later is what did, fulfilling Christ's prayer.

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A little confession here for those who have slandered Ron in ignorance would go a long way towards healing.

Ignoring it would produce the same results ignoring the guilt of the 3000 would have...a victory for the other side.

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texmexcoo said:
Hey guys I must apologize for my actions here on this board and starting alittle fire on here . I appreciate your responses and in no way do I carry my problems wether it's family or just life in general into my business and customers. I joined softwash systems here and the uamc for two reason only, to learn as much as I can from the old heads ( railroad term for veteran) and to pass my knowledge to anyone who needs its. Thanks everybody for making me alittle bit stronger and wiser about certain situations that I may incounter in life.
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Don't worry about it, this kind of thing happens, especially when someone does something wrong and has people try to mis-direct threads (like what is happening here, now) so that attention is off of them for the moment. There are those that are at the beck and call of those that pull their chains, no big deal, has happened in the past, right now and will probably happen in the future.

People will try to get back on topic and there will be those that will try to keep on mis-directing like in the past and now.
 
danwagner said:
Dave, the difference here is that the ones who hanged Jesus on the torture stake didn't realize they were putting an innocent man to death. The Jewish religious leaders who instigated this were beyond forgiveness.
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Another way way to view this is ....In God's eyes, no one is beyond forgiveness? Weather they thought he was innocent has not makes no difference nor does it matters how good one might be.
The only thing that makes a difference is that you accept him as your Savior!
Most of the ones at the crucifixion rejected his Gift .....Just believing in Jesus is not enough....they talked and walked with him and most still did not receive his Gift.
Just my thoughts....
 
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