I believe he was $300/building
I believe so to, but there has abeen alot of confusion in this thread all because of differences in terminology.
I believe he was $300/building
Hey Nick can you clarify your definition of a unit? When reading the entire string, "Unit" has been used as "each unit has 4 homes" and "there are 4 units per building"
Are saying $300 per 6000sqft building or 300 per door? Im assuming per building because per door would be $64,000. I just dont want any confusion.
1 unit would include the 4 homes. I know how i work and many others on here. If you can move at the rate stated you would make great money at the $300.00 per unit.
I know Jeff does alot of these and he may be a little higher on price because of location, but he can eyeball a unit and come up with a price per unit and get right thru it in no time!!
This really all depends on your equipment and skill, if you are a newbie at this i suggest you give the work to a pro and go along for the knowlege. That would be the best on the job training you can get!!
There are jobs that will look all daunting to you, and you may think it will take you a week to do, but a pro can go thru it in hours, that is how you make the money and bid the job at a price that is making you money.
I dont know about you but i cant do this as a hobby, there needs to be a decent profit in order to grow your bizzzz!!!
I won't get into who should charge what but there is plenty of money to be made at 55 a unit. We just walked in the door. 4 guys did 18 buildings today with 8 units per building at 50 a unit. That's 7200 for a 9 hour day. Multiply that by about 35 days here on this project and worked lined up like this for about 5 more months this year plus residential. I don't consider this a hobby. It's a good paying job that keeps me happy and paychecks for my guys. Ya'll line up a bunch of townhomes for 300 a unit and sub them to me for 50 a unit and we'll all be happy
I won't get into who should charge what but there is plenty of money to be made at 55 a unit. We just walked in the door. 4 guys did 18 buildings today with 8 units per building at 50 a unit. That's 7200 for a 9 hour day. Multiply that by about 35 days here on this project and worked lined up like this for about 5 more months this year plus residential. I don't consider this a hobby. It's a good paying job that keeps me happy and paychecks for my guys. Ya'll line up a bunch of townhomes for 300 a unit and sub them to me for 50 a unit and we'll all be happy
Vinyl is the fastest easiest work you can do, you should be able to get about $300.00 per unit. Thats good money considering it should only take you 45min per unit to wash.
Here's my 2 cents.
The price should be based on the requirements for the individual business performing the task to complete it timely, satisfactorily and with their desired profit applied.
That being said, different companies have different profit margin structures. Profit does consider the companies G&A or Fee. The G&A or fee alone could put some companies out of the price competitive range for some jobs. (That's just 3 variables affecting price already).
Some other variables mentioned were, Quantity,size, and functionality of Equipment; Speed/experience of work force, Risk management.
Some business operations today are very calculated , utilizing the least expensive qualified direct labor, the most efficient methods and equipment if possible, all three combined with a lower overhead (multi functional personnel) and the willingness to shave their higher profits margins of yesteryear.
Sometimes their is no way to beat the competition on price (I am talking about "non-hack" competition).
Most of us like to know that we bought something at a great price, but not every merchant could or would sell you the same exact product at the same price.
My resent experience: I just purchased a brake controller at my local truck shop, another I purchased at an online/brick and mortar store out of state for 60% less excluding my state taxes, and the out of state purchase was an upgraded model. (How they do that? It would be the same way with some jobs and pricing)
I dont wash buildings/units , but I have heard of companies that roll up on a HOA/communities with 4 trucks, 2 (10gpm) machines each. I have also seen pictures of a trailers with 6 high volume machines. Their model maybe lower pricing higher volume, I am not sure, and they are busy all season.
Anyhow, I hope guys understand that I am not bashing lower priced models but rather trying to be the fine print that they need to read before following pricing advice on a BBS. They need to learn sound business fundamentals before trying to calculate thier prices. Winging it will only get ya so far.
I've got about another week here, then home for a few weeks. Back for two weeks in April, then Nashville, Huntsville, Asheville. No more traveling after that til the winter. I like to stay local during the busy season.William you over at the Knoxville job,,,
Completely agree, which is why I always advocate guys leaning thier numbers and figuring out how to price based on those numbers instead of coming to the BBS and asking what to price. What works for one won't work for another. I never say that William is cheap but rather his numbers would break my business. Just using his example, it came out to $200/man hour which is great when you got 4/5 guys making that day in and day out. But my company which for the most part is usually me and 1 helper, couldn't make payroll at those numbers. Why? Well we only work 8 months out of the year, don't have condos governed by HOA's/PM's on evey corner and MY own salary requirement is higher than most.
William has a sweet Business. As well as Jeff L. I have even considered transplanting to thier areas for the volume.
Anyhow, I hope guys understand that I am not bashing lower priced models but rather trying to be the fine print that they need to read before following pricing advice on a BBS. They need to learn sound business fundamentals before trying to calculate thier prices. Winging it will only get ya so far.