When did you build your first recovery rig?

What year did you build your first recovery rig? pick the closest year.

  • 1985

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • 1988

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 1991

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 1994

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • 1997

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2000

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • 2003

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • 2006

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • 2009

    Votes: 3 30.0%
  • 2012

    Votes: 2 20.0%

  • Total voters
    10
  • Poll closed .

Scott Stone

New member
When did you build your first recovery rig? Why did you build it? I built mine in 1995. I used it for fleet washing. I used it frequently, but realistically, when I built it, it was unnecessary because the water drop and evaporation took care of most of my recovery needs. I was never required to use a mat.
 
I had bought mine in 2012 because of the 1,000 page EPA regulations that didn't make anything clear and might of well been written in Latin. I'm glad that I bought it and it does help me sometimes to pick up the water, especially when it pools in areas. The only thing I wish is that I could could hook up a engine power motor and suck a thousand feet away, not to be restricted to 100 feet with lousy suction. Like I would love to have s sirocco system, but that is something I can add in the future. For the time being my system works.
 
What is a water recovery system and why do i need it?

A water recovery system is a vac system that sucks up the water you put down in to make sure that no "waster-Water" is disposed in our storm drain system. I use it for more then that. I use it so the grease or dirt doesn't just travel down the road and get something else dirty. Some I know use it on floor cleaners to save rinse time on concrete job, when they put chemicals down that might harm the natural area around them. There are many uses one could use, but the main one is just to keep the waste water from going down a storm drain.
 
Since I deal with coils that are over office buildings I have always had to deal with recovering water.

As a side benefit I also had to learn about filtration very quickly too because initially I cleaned filters with mobile ultrasonic machine.

After 40 filters or so, the machine still cleaned very well, but the water took on an odor that was transmitted to the filters.

Since I had already invested tens of thousands of dollars into the ultrasonic method, I had to build filtration system that could remove contaminants down to less than 5 microns and reuse the water over and over again all day.

The reason for that was because the water had to sit for 24 hours or be run for at least 15 minutes for the ultrasonic process to work. The water had to be "conditioned" and all the air bubbles had to be removed from it in order for it to work.

So I spent almost a year experimenting with filtration. I had another business paying our bills, so I had plenty of time to spend on this each day.

I tried numerous pumps and replaceable swimming pool filters. Most pumps were not sturdy enough and would break frequently. The swimming pool filters would fill up VERY quickly and choke off the system. The other problem was power. I had to design something that could run off a normal generator without going into specialty generators because of the cost. Lastly I had to deal with the space issue, I only had so much space in the van I was using (UPS truck style)

Eventually I had the water go through a polypropylene filtration media to get the big stuff out, then through a carbon filter, then through a DE swimming pool filter that I could backflush regularly throughout the day. I also built a chlorine injection system that also helped deal with the smell. That combination worked, till eventually it could not keep up when we were doing roofs with 200 to 500 filters on them.

I was using a 90 gallon ultrasonic machine and that filtration system could bring the tank from black to a pee yellow that was clear enough to read a quarter on the bottom of the tank in less than 5 minutes. It was a pretty decent system.

It was very compact:

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We have added it to our reclaim trailer for those rare instances where he have no other access to water.

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Here was an early swimming pool filter after only TWO cleaning cycles!!!!

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It all had to fit in this small space:

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If you will notice in the picture above, I had a small area for the filters to sit for a couple of minutes after they were cleaned. Up under that shelf I had a row of UV lights to kill bacteria. Jim and Robert use the same technology today. I don't think Jim had ever even heard of UV till I met him in 2008.

I also told Jim about the DE filter. He says you can't use it for some reason for what he does. But I know for a fact that there is no more economical final polishing filter than a DE filter as long as you do the job of prefiltering before it gets to the DE filter. IT will produce near swimming pool quality water if done right, even if there are true emulsifiers (soap) in the water. Our ultrasonic machine used it's own special soap.

So I started filtration a few years ago.

We started reclaim early on with portable vacs, then moved up when we needed to.

We now have one of the largest environmental cleaning contracts in our area for cleaning large restaurant grease spills. That was the main reason we invested in the system we have now. Note: we didn't spend the money first, then look for the magic accounts, we spent the money as we got the accounts.
 
A water recovery system is a vac system that sucks up the water you put down in to make sure that no "waster-Water" is disposed in our storm drain system. I use it for more then that. I use it so the grease or dirt doesn't just travel down the road and get something else dirty. Some I know use it on floor cleaners to save rinse time on concrete job, when they put chemicals down that might harm the natural area around them. There are many uses one could use, but the main one is just to keep the waste water from going down a storm drain.

lol.

Hope you got all that Micheal. :)
 
I was just playin. I know what they are and where to use them I just don't have a purpose for it right now because we don't have those type of accounts. I just wanted to see what others would say.


Knew that. That is why it was so funny.
 
Interestingly, my brother used UV light in a pool sanitation filter in 1978 -1979. I used to help him build them.
 
Besides the old sump pump and mat over the drain. We didn't buy our "official" waste water recovery unit until 2004. We now have 6 vacubooms, 2 hydrotek recycling systems and sirocco setup. They all have advantages and disadvantages but come in handy when you need them. They were all bought second hand besides the vacubooms. I saved quite a bit of money that way. The people we bought them from had purchased them for one or two jobs then basically didn't know how to incorporate them in there daily washing
 
So basically you just wasted my time? Thanx buddy. I'll be sure to return the favor.

Michael was just messing around with you a bit Kristopher. After over 250 posts on here most people know what a recovery system is. It's okay to play around sometimes.
 
So basically you just wasted my time? Thanx buddy. I'll be sure to return the favor.

All in fun. Has happened of all of us. But...paybacks a ???? Right??? Nice to see you were willing to help out though. Most just say hit the search feature....lol
 
Besides the old sump pump and mat over the drain. We didn't buy our "official" waste water recovery unit until 2004. We now have 6 vacubooms, 2 hydrotek recycling systems and sirocco setup. They all have advantages and disadvantages but come in handy when you need them. They were all bought second hand besides the vacubooms. I saved quite a bit of money that way. The people we bought them from had purchased them for one or two jobs then basically didn't know how to incorporate them in there daily washing
Best deals around Rob. I bought a few months ago a surface machine is set up for a vac hookup for 1/5 the cost & it was only used 2-3 times.. I may this yr or next look to buy something new to the specs I need it at. Sorocco vac's is very high on my list for this.
 
I used a shop vac and sump pumps late 90's early 2000's for some jobs when we had water issues that were residential and caused by either us or bad drainage system on there property such as Powerwashing basement entrance ways or cleaning backyard patios that the water flooded up towards the house(bad pitch)

I also over the last few yrs modified shop vacs but I can't say I really built my own complete recovery setup. Bought a few others and one new in around 07-08.

So I'd say I never really built my own yet.. Modified yes.
 
Built my own in 2001 in Colorado when we used to do new construction clean up. Nikro with a sump in the drum.
 
In the early 90's when I worked for other companies we used the shop vacs, sump pumps, mats, etc.... and then I started having ideas for better ways to do things faster and more efficiently. I had a lot of ideas but closed-minded people are hard to take ideas from the employees so I just saved the ideas so when I started my own business I could try them out, almost all of them worked great but don't use them all the time.

When I started my own business in 2004, I bought the Mighty Mobile oil water separator, oil socks, vacuum system, etc..... put the rig together but did not build most of the components, just some of them. I never used the oil water separator as I work efficiently and environmentally compliant so I never had to use it so I sold it last year to a fellow contractor.

Some jobs have a lot of sediment which ends up turning into mud and slows the job down to a crawl and with those ideas from the early 90's, it gave me the direction to go to working on ideas for a sludge device to make life easier when dealing with lots and lots of sludge.

You really don't need expensive equipment for most jobs to keep things out of the storm water drains, you can do just about everything for under a few hundred dollars most of the time.
 
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