I believe it is 7 years now. We were before when everything blew up back then, dropped out and waited for the dust to settle, and jumped back in. Maybe I'm a little spoiled since he is in my backyard, but Mike went along with us today when we met with Minnesotas branch of the EPA to discuss what they are expecting from our industry and see if anything has changed since we met with them the last time. It went well and they are a lot more educated on and willing to work with our industry compared to what is going on in Houston. We stressed to them that we ARE NOT POLLUTERS like the stigma that is unjustifiably attached to our industry but instead we clean up and dispose of pollution and went on to explain why. They said they had never looked at it from that direction but could certainly understand our points. Overall a very productive meeting and it opened new lines of communication. I appreciated Mikes help.
I believe that the Hilborn guy stated he was not going to be shopping the BMP around, he was just compiling info to help the contractors or some such nonsense. Now you tell us he was meeting with the EPA in your state.