Nice Vac Rig Setup

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Found this on you tube.
 
You said it Chris, no matter were

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I think his 8 gpms is a little to much for the vac/SC combination, but it still works good
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The only thing I saw was when he was cleaning either edge, when you are over the edge you are losing a huge amount of vacuum so water will not be pulled from the vacuum surface cleaner.

Notice when he is in the middle of the sidewalk, it is doing good, just when he is on the edges he is losing vacuum.

How do you like that brand of vacuum surface cleaner?

It looks like it does a good job.






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Christopher said:
The only thing I saw was when he was cleaning either edge, when you are over the edge you are losing a huge amount of vacuum so water will not be pulled from the vacuum surface cleaner.

Notice when he is in the middle of the sidewalk, it is doing good, just when he is on the edges he is losing vacuum.

How do you like that brand of vacuum surface cleaner?

It looks like it does a good job.
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Chris good talking with you this evening, thanks for sharing info.

Thats a modified mosmatic form pressurewasher.net he is suppose to be revealing a 40" vac SC soon.
 
Great talking to you too Nigel, great info also.

I will have to call my friend or Steel Eagle to see about the larger deck that they offer and see if they ever came out with the larger vacuum recovery deck also.

I think that they were holding back since it requires a lot more vacuum exponentially the larger size you go so not sure how much cfm and lift you would need but I would like to find out for the future so when it is needeed, it is just a phone call away.





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810f250 said:
You said it Chris, no matter were

INSIDE

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OR OUTSIDE


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I think his 8 gpms is a little to much for the vac/SC combination, but it still works good
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where do you get the little connections to make the surface cleaner a vacuume surface cleaner? I have one I may convert
 
810f250 said:
You said it Chris, no matter were

INSIDE

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OR OUTSIDE


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I think his 8 gpms is a little to much for the vac/SC combination, but it still works good
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You keep the tips coming Nigel...Thanks for posting here on PWI..
 
Russ, it might be easier to buy them already made.

They use dual shell technology. It has an inner shell that makes a gap between the outer shell and the gap is where the vacuum pulls up the dirty water.

If you have a vacuum that pulls about 110" of water lift and 230cfm or more then it will work on the vacuum surface cleaner tools or vacuboom or vacuberm.

A Scirocco, Steel Eagle Fury system or other equivalent that are gas powered are perfect and pull enough vacuum to use 2 of the vacuum recovery tools.

If you have an electric system that pulls the same cfm's and inches of water lift then it would be ok also but most of those electric motors (even my Nikro dual head electric system) are duty rated to 45 minutes so about 45 minutes of use you have to shut them down, let them cool off then uset them some more, a lot of manufacturers and vendors forget to tell you that part.






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Christopher said:
Russ, it might be easier to buy them already made.

They use dual shell technology. It has an inner shell that makes a gap between the outer shell and the gap is where the vacuum pulls up the dirty water.

If you have a vacuum that pulls about 110" of water lift and 230cfm or more then it will work on the vacuum surface cleaner tools or vacuboom or vacuberm.

A Scirocco, Steel Eagle Fury system or other equivalent that are gas powered are perfect and pull enough vacuum to use 2 of the vacuum recovery tools.

If you have an electric system that pulls the same cfm's and inches of water lift then it would be ok also but most of those electric motors (even my Nikro dual head electric system) are duty rated to 45 minutes so about 45 minutes of use you have to shut them down, let them cool off then uset them some more, a lot of manufacturers and vendors forget to tell you that part.






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Chris mine is 200 CFM and 210 ft of lift, I was wanting it for small jobs and stuff like inside coolers or similar applications
 
Russ, According to the chart on the Steel Eagle page, their smallest vacuum system makes 250cfm and 12" of Hg lift and the largest vacuum recovery tool that they recommend using is the 16" surface cleaner. Here is a link to their chart: http://www.steeleagle.com/cleaningunits2400.htm

Your machine is 200cfm and 210ft of lift (maybe 210 inches of lift?) so without knowing the specs on the vacuum recovery surface cleaner tools, it is hard to tell what is the largest size you can go with, Steel Eagle does not show the specs needed for the vacuum surface cleaner tools on their site but I am sure that they know if someone calls them.

The Nikro Dual head vacuum system I have is rated at 230cfm and 110" lift and it does work good with the Steel Eagle 24" Vacuum Surface Cleaner tool. Here is a link to that page:
http://www.nikro.com/mold_remediation/dp55230.htm

On my Nikro system I had to install a pump, screen and check valve so it would pump out the water as you are working but the important thing here is that the pump has to be able to pump out while the drum is under vacuum, a lot of sump pumps out there can't overcome the vacuum to pump out. Alan from California helped me with all this, he really knows a lot.

I do not know what the price is for the vacuum surface cleaner tool that Sunbrite had at the MB Round Table or how good it works but it is a lot lighter than my Steel Eagle unit.

Feel free to call anytime Russ, you are always welcome to call, just call anytime. hahahahaha






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Russ Spence said:
where do you get the little connections to make the surface cleaner a vacuume surface cleaner? I have one I may convert
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Russ, Jerry at pressurewasher.net built those SC's he can tell you if it is dual shell and where he gets the fittings. The original design had only 2 ports, then he upped it to 3.
 

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Christopher said:
Russ, it might be easier to buy them already made.

They use dual shell technology. It has an inner shell that makes a gap between the outer shell and the gap is where the vacuum pulls up the dirty water.

If you have a vacuum that pulls about 110" of water lift and 230cfm or more then it will work on the vacuum surface cleaner tools or vacuboom or vacuberm.

A Scirocco, Steel Eagle Fury system or other equivalent that are gas powered are perfect and pull enough vacuum to use 2 of the vacuum recovery tools.

If you have an electric system that pulls the same cfm's and inches of water lift then it would be ok also but most of those electric motors (even my Nikro dual head electric system) are duty rated to 45 minutes so about 45 minutes of use you have to shut them down, let them cool off then uset them some more, a lot of manufacturers and vendors forget to tell you that part.
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Something like my custom one Chris, that I never tried with vac, all the builder did was use BE parts, 18" 3 arm bar, weld a inner shell and used a BE 20" SS surface cleaner body. The gap on mine is to big.
 

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I looked at that brochure and on his website along with the Sunbrite site and Steel Eagle, they do not mention what is the minimum cfm's and lift needed to use those vacuum tools, I am sure that they know and will tell you if you call but it would be nice if it was on their websites.





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Christopher said:
I looked at that brochure and on his website along with the Sunbrite site and Steel Eagle, they do not mention what is the minimum cfm's and lift needed to use those vacuum tools, I am sure that they know and will tell you if you call but it would be nice if it was on their websites.
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I spoke with mosmatic and they have a min. I think it was 200cfm for theirs, Paul from espec, tested the 21 Vac SC (lubova) he can tell you what works. I believe he used a hd. shop vac but dont know the pump flow, he was running.
 
Jerry's is a dual shell surface cleaner.

That trailer is good, though I do have a bias against the Sirocco systems. I did buy one of the earliest ones that they made, and have been to the last two shops that they have had to look at their equipment.

The biggest critique I have about that trailer is that it is too tall to fit into many parking garages, and that the filtering system has too small a capacity, in my opinion. Sadly, I am starting to sound like someone else. But that filter would be over burdened very quickly in a parking garage.
 
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