Nice Vac Rig Setup

Maybe he meant that he had 2 of the 25 degree nozzles in there.

If I was guessing, he is probably using the 4.5 orifice nozzles for the 8gpm machine.

If I was re-using the water, I would go a little further like down to 5 microns but that is me. I have heard a lot of people say that you can't ever get all the soap out without a very, very expensive rig so they say to either use a little bit or none at all.
 
that Nice Rig with Major Reclaim

About the SC21v Vacuuming Surface Cleaner-
You need to use any tool correctly, and understand the maintenance.. <O:p</O:p
The swivel has a big advantage.. it is rebuildable on your tailgate, in just a few minutes,<O:p
and with a very inexpensive kit, BUT, It is sensitive to debris in the seal surfaces-<O:p
The mechanical seal is two very flat, polished surfaces..<O:p
ANY debris that gets between allows the surfaces to stand apart, and spurt water out the bleeder-port.
This explains why Nigel’s swivel was leaking on and off. <O:p
If it bleeds, open it up, clean it out, reassemble, and get back to cleaning like hell.
If you are having an on-going problem, call your pit-crew. Eh? <O:p
To eliminate issues of debris in the water causing you grief at the swivel.<O:p
Our SCv has a 50 micron filter now, but we’ll get a finer filter to solve that problem immediately.<O:p
Any of you that need the upgrade, just call me for a FREE one. SOLVING problems is what a pit-crew does. <O:p
The true path to strength, is the elimination of weakness. You clean, WE do the equipment. Eh?<O:p
You guys that suggest you might build your own need to realize that as you are sidetracked, <O:p
your competition is out there specializing in cleaning for profit, while you are less profitable, <O:p
and feeling all alone ..AKA no pit- crew at your side.<O:p
I know you have had to wade through some severe junk, and limited help in this industry, <O:p
But keeping the Faith alive, and using it wisely is an important management skill. Eh?
<O:p
<O:p</O:p
About the Filtration,<O:p
It is a balancing act, unless someone wants to throw a bunch of money at it,<O:p
I’m ONLY assuming you guys want the BEST performance your money can buy,<O:p
so you have to communicate. Tell your supplier what the jobsite is..
Underground parking in Buffalo is different from a parking garage in Phoenix,<O:p
as is different at a typical Wal-Mart in Florida, or California.<O:p
To start with, 20 microns is fine for protecting the pressure washer.<O:p
If it costs you an extra set of HP valves every 2 years, your accountant will tell you buy ‘em, <O:p
when he sees we’ve decreased the baby-sitting required of the filtration.<O:p
Particulate filtration is typically aimed at the 1 to 10 micron range, because the water looks "kind of" clean.<O:p
But you will be cleaning filters (or throwing them away,) every few hours. <O:p
That’s just NOT profitable. Here’s what IS.<O:p
Catching the bulk of the debris, down to 20 microns is quite manageable, and<O:p
through a pressure washer pump, for re-use, 20 micron filtration is fine.
Yes, the holding tank will have a dirt-stain at the bottom, but,<O:p
why spend more on filtration than necessary for workspeed ?<O:p
Filtration should be done in stages, for manageability.<O:p
Have the sweeper-guy come by for the big dirt and debris that would clog the surface cleaner. <O:p
A SandTrap gets the big-heavy stuff, the waste-tank filter screen gets the lighter debris.<O:p
Together they allow the auto-pump-out to work easier.
<O:p</O:p

Next, the OWS with that ultra-efficient OilPhyllic fiber of ours, gets out that oily-greasy debris from a parking lot,<O:p
and you wanted an OWS that could fit on your trailer. Eh ?
Also, You have to be careful of what and how much soap you use with anyone OWS. <O:p
It makes a HUGE difference. <O:p
And about that soap. our CarbonFilters and FoamTrap may be added for your application.<O:p
IF you want more dirt-load capacity, add more 20 micron filters,
and if you really think you’ll benefit from finer filtration, <O:p</O:p
we’ll show you how to do it without sacrificing performance. <O:p
<O:p</O:p
Call, or e-mail any question. we will never waste your time.<O:p
Your pit-crew is standing by.

<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

Jerry McMillen President,
Cleaning System Specialists, Inc.
<O:p
dba www.PressureWasher.net
call 800-400-2532 <O:p
manufacturer of Sirocco Performance Vacuums, the VacuBerm
and BullDogPro Industrial Pressure washers, the ultimate in reliability
e-mail info@PressureWasher.net<O:p</O:p
 
that Nice Rig with Major Reclaim

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About the SC21v Vacuuming Surface Cleaner-
You need to use any tool correctly, and understand the maintenance..
The swivel has a big advantage.. it is rebuildable on your tailgate, in just a few minutes,
and with a very inexpensive kit, BUT, It is sensitive to debris in the seal surfaces-
The mechanical seal is two very flat, polished surfaces..
ANY debris that gets between allows the surfaces to stand apart, and spurt water out the bleeder-port.
This explains why Nigel’s swivel was leaking on and off.
If it bleeds, open it up, clean it out, reassemble, and get back to cleaning like hell.
If you are having an on-going problem, call your pit-crew. Eh?
To eliminate issues of debris in the water causing you grief at the swivel.
Our SCv has a 50 micron filter now, but we’ll get a finer filter to solve that problem immediately.
Any of you that need the upgrade, just call me for a FREE one. SOLVING problems is what a pit-crew does.
The true path to strength, is the elimination of weakness. You clean, WE do the equipment. Eh?
You guys that suggest you might build your own need to realize that as you are sidetracked,
your competition is out there specializing in cleaning for profit, while you are less profitable,
and feeling all alone ..AKA no pit- crew at your side.
I know you have had to wade through some severe junk, and limited help in this industry,
But keeping the Faith alive, and using it wisely is an important management skill. Eh?


About the Filtration,
It is a balancing act, unless someone wants to throw a bunch of money at it,
I’m ONLY assuming you guys want the BEST performance your money can buy,
so you have to communicate. Tell your supplier what the jobsite is..
Underground parking in Buffalo is different from a parking garage in Phoenix,
as is different at a typical Wal-Mart in Florida, or California.
To start with, 20 microns is fine for protecting the pressure washer.
If it costs you an extra set of HP valves every 2 years, your accountant will tell you buy ‘em,
when he sees we’ve decreased the baby-sitting required of the filtration.
Particulate filtration is typically aimed at the 1 to 10 micron range, because the water looks "kind of" clean.
But you will be cleaning filters (or throwing them away,) every few hours.
That’s just NOT profitable. Here’s what IS.
Catching the bulk of the debris, down to 20 microns is quite manageable, and
through a pressure washer pump, for re-use, 20 micron filtration is fine.
Yes, the holding tank will have a dirt-stain at the bottom, but,
why spend more on filtration than necessary for workspeed ?
Filtration should be done in stages, for manageability.
Have the sweeper-guy come by for the big dirt and debris that would clog the surface cleaner.
A SandTrap gets the big-heavy stuff, the waste-tank filter screen gets the lighter debris.
Together they allow the auto-pump-out to work easier.


Next, the OWS with that ultra-efficient OilPhyllic fiber of ours, gets out that oily-greasy debris from a parking lot,
and you wanted an OWS that could fit on your trailer. Eh ?
Also, You have to be careful of what and how much soap you use with anyone OWS.
It makes a HUGE difference.
And about that soap. our CarbonFilters and FoamTrap may be added for your application.
IF you want more dirt-load capacity, add more 20 micron filters,
and if you really think you’ll benefit from finer filtration,
we’ll show you how to do it without sacrificing performance.

Call, or e-mail any question. we will never waste your time.
Your pit-crew is standing by.

And there you have it. Thanks for posting this Jerry!!
 
Welcome Jerry, good to have you here.
 
Jerry could you explain the science behind the filtration balancing act.

for example how long does it take certain size solids to drop out of an undisturbed wash water?

What are your views about cyclone separation in our type of cleaning? I heard that Steel Eagle uses it on their system, and I have seen cyclone separators that have some great first pass micron readings.


How long can the screens in the drums run before they typically have to be cleaned while concrete cleaning with a vac SC?

How does one size an OWS for most typical concrete cleaning?

How much more efficiency would your series of components be if a tank was fitted upstream your OWS with coalescing plates (similar to the H2O Boy)?

If this was done could the screens in the drums be removed without rapid detriment to the fibers in your OWS?
 
It's all modular, and simplistic

Ron, you make me laugh... you're such a "cat-herder.":rotflmao1:
and Nigel.. I appreciate the quality questions..

The FIRST step is to trap any solids you can, in a SandTrap,
or cyclonic separator before they get in to te waste tank with the Auto-Pump-Out..
The APO HAS to be reliable. period.
I can do a cyclonic version for about $800. but you'all go "on" about low cost. Eh?
..SandTraps are half that price, multifunctional. and certainly more portable
I want it to be simplistic and manageable for you, so
I set it up to be the tank on the ground, you wheel over to the landscaping at the end of the job,
to dump the customers' dirt, on the customers' site.
Otherwise, once all that sand gets up into your rig, it's not as easy to manage,
'lest ye have a dumping-style (expensive) tank like a hydro-excavator has.
next ! :nhl_checking:

Solids in a waste-stream as far as we're concerned,
is more like filtering a river, than a settling-pond..
On a trailer, with 4 men blasting, and a "schedule to keep"..
we're "snatching" the debris, as it's racing through. Eh?
So, the filters need to "flow the Flow" (with minimal restriction)
fast enough to deliver water "clean-enough" to function reliably.
So, far, the test results show.. you need AT LEAST a 1 1/2" filter for every 5 to 8gpm flow,
because it is going to load-up from the dirt it traps. We recommend at least one 100sq.ft. filter
to manage the dirt-load of a typical nights work doing strip-malls.
depending on the
actual dirt-load, you might go a couple night before having to clean the filter element.
I push 200sq.ft of filtration for every Vacuuming surface cleaner you use..
you will NOT be disappointed.:dance:

In between the SandTrap, and the particulate-filters is the OWS..
our 66gl. OWS works fine, for the described applications for up to 15gpm.
If you have the "worst-case" parking garage, back it up to 10gpm max.
the OilPhyllic fiber system is WAY more efficient than coalescing plates.
That's why we have patents pending on the process.
We have a kit you can buy that will upgrade a WaterBoy, or WTT systems,
and those throw-away-element filters with limited dirtload capacity..
just have to go away..
Buy our 2pk 3pk, or 4pk of Cleanable Cartridge filters, pre-plumbed,
and you can some much better dirt-load capacity.
By the way.. ythe new bracketts can be mounted in almost any position !
Remember.. we design our system on what we learn in the service dept.
So, if we need to help you UPGRADE, instead of replace, know that
we won't be offended.. We're just as glad to serve another (paying) customer.

Now, about the slide-in filter-screens we use in the VacWaste-Tanks..
They catch the lighter-weight debris like sticks and leaves,
which would otherwise clog the Auto-Pump-Out. Don't take it out.
I also have to mention.. we now have available a "LeafTrap" BagFilter,
with hanger-brackets that go on the debris side of the waste tank,
for catching larger loads of leaves and cigarrette-butts,
when you use our "Bulk-PickUp" wand along curbs and RainGutters.
Our SandTrap also doubles as a LeafTrap, by just adding our
Slide-In Filter-Screen, so dumping is even easier !
..Everybody wants to avoid "messing with" in the APO WasteTank. Eh?
For RainGutter specialists, I have a special tank..
30 gl. or 55gl. vers with a big beefy, lift-out bag for REALLY easy dumping.
Ask, and ye shall recieve !:woot:
 
Jerry on another thread we had a discussion on patents and wondered how violations are determined.

But to make long story short I have seen high flow oil attracting fiber in drums from a manufacturer along with non drumed fiber, if I use it would that be in violation of your process?

Settling tanks Jerry I have also read about the minimum size and time the water should be "still" to drop out certain sizes of solids, whats the size and height for our type of cleaning.

When would I want upgrade to your 100gal OWS?

What is your take on a single 200 sq.ft cartridge filter, vs 2 of 100sq.ft units for 8gpm output flow. Or is it that 2 100sq.ft replacement filters are cheaper than one 200 sqFt. I know you are always thinking low cost, hence I asked.
 
On Jerry's advice we added a sand trap to our system and it makes a world of difference. Keeps filters more efficient for a longer period.
 
810f250 said:
Jerry on another thread we had a discussion on patents and wondered how violations are determined.

But to make long story short I have seen high flow oil attracting fiber in drums from a manufacturer along with non drumed fiber, if I use it would that be in violation of your process?

Settling tanks Jerry I have also read about the minimum size and time the water should be "still" to drop out certain sizes of solids, whats the size and height for our type of cleaning.

When would I want upgrade to your 100gal OWS?

What is your take on a single 200 sq.ft cartridge filter, vs 2 of 100sq.ft units for 8gpm output flow. Or is it that 2 100sq.ft replacement filters are cheaper than one 200 sqFt. I know you are always thinking low cost, hence I asked.
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Jerry another quick one , what pressure rating should i be looking for on the cartridge filter housings.
 
810f250 said:
Jerry on another thread we had a discussion on patents and wondered how violations are determined.

But to make long story short I have seen high flow oil attracting fiber in drums from a manufacturer along with non drumed fiber, if I use it would that be in violation of your process?

Settling tanks Jerry I have also read about the minimum size and time the water should be "still" to drop out certain sizes of solids, whats the size and height for our type of cleaning.

When would I want upgrade to your 100gal OWS?

What is your take on a single 200 sq.ft cartridge filter, vs 2 of 100sq.ft units for 8gpm output flow. Or is it that 2 100sq.ft replacement filters are cheaper than one 200 sqFt. I know you are always thinking low cost, hence I asked.
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810f250 said:
Jerry another quick one , what pressure rating should i be looking for on the cartridge filter housings.
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Jerry I would like to publicly thank you for the call and your time , you were truly helpful, and answered all my questions.

I did not mean to come off like I wanted to reverse engineer your systems, but I wanted an extensive understanding of the principles upon which your equipment is based.

The hour and a half of explanations and mechanical theory, has convinced me that your vacuum/filtration system is what I would purchase in the near future.

Thank You!!! Jerry "workspeed" Mc Millen


ps looking forward to the 40" vac SC.
 
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