UAMCC TAx status

Ron, I was the chairman of the finance committee and I was the number 2 founding member so of course I know the business plan and model well. Everything else about the future has been presented to the members of the org.

A service company is very different in that its a private, for profit entity that sells its membership work and other than making sure the contractor is qualified, does not really have any interest in the industry as a whole. A service company will never perform charity work, fight too-strict BMP's, stand up for small business owners' rights or one day lobby for pressure washing contractors in government. The UAMCC is a group of contractors banding together with business ideas, networking and raising business practices. Its much the same as PWI only on a larger, more prominent scale.

sounds pretty much like my company an my efforts. Also nce my company is the largest private co. I know of currently doing this. Have actually been doing it for years. Everything you said we have done above on a nationwide scale. Did you know I gave the last bmp the Uamcc claims they helped the actual source nc used. I asked not to be mentioned, the Uamcc accused mevof interference.

I have been handling bmp's longer than Robert an likley long after he is retired.

You guys crack me up. The Uamcc has been invited to follow nce who has and is actually worth 1000's .

We have spent far more than the Uamcc and thus far has accomlished current goals.

Your so called org has turned a deaf ear. It's truly hilarious, despite your current tt team will continue to invite contractor and the industry without discrimination. This includes the Uamcc. However conduct of individuals will no longer be tolerated. Certain conduct codes will be in forced for 2010 and Uamcc will get these warnings like all other national affiliated org will.

Nce and contractors all accross the country have come together to assist each other. I'm proud my fellow contractors have accomplished so much.

This topic was a simple question. Will u file a 501c6 the 2009 or will the current for profit status file?
 
..and the prosecutions rests, your honor. :sarcastic:

Where are you going so soon Big Chief Sheeeepherder? :winknudge:

Don't open up a can of worms, then run off and leave!

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Where are you going so soon Big Chief Sheeeepherder? :winknudge:

Don't open up a can of worms, then run off and leave!

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I think its Ron, not Ken that started this thread. And you have the greats like David chiming in for no reason.

Its very apparent you guys have a hard on for the Uamcc. I know Ron wants his money back, etc. But one minute you guys bury the hatchet and move on, and then you drag it all up again.


And BTW, I am NOT a uamcc member...

Its like Palestine and Israel. They hate each other, but they coexist.

Russ, Ron, whoever...delete my acct. Actually I will try and do it myself. This is f'ing ridiculous.
 
I think its Ron, not Ken that started this thread. And you have the greats like David chiming in for no reason.

Its very apparent you guys have a hard on for the Uamcc. I know Ron wants his money back, etc. But one minute you guys bury the hatchet and move on, and then you drag it all up again.


And BTW, I am NOT a uamcc member...

Its like Palestine and Israel. They hate each other, but they coexist.

Russ, Ron, whoever...delete my acct. Actually I will try and do it myself. This is f'ing ridiculous.

I'm still getting up off the floor after that Palestine/Israel comment. Coexist? Palestine would destroy Israel in a second if they thought they could get away with it.

Maybe it's better if you delete your account and go join the jumpy happy guys over on their board where every thing is roses and sunshine and you don't have to think about real things like keeping an industry alive so you can feed your family.

Don, these guys are taking over YOUR industry. Do you want to hear what is f'ing ridiculous? It's that you would prefer that we all bury our heads in the sand and just accept it.

We already did that last November and elected the destuction of our country as we know it. That party is of the exact same mindset as the UAMCC.

They don't want to hear any alternative ideas - "the ship has sailed" and their minds are made up.
They want to make sure they reward their own, even if it is not in the best interest of the customer - Just like OBAMA and his appointments.
Etc, Etc.

By sticking your head in the sand and allowing a group of disgruntled part-time pressure washers take over the industry that provides the income for YOUR FAMILY you will get what you deserve just like we got with Obama.

I will NOT stop fighting this.
 
I think its Ron, not Ken that started this thread. And you have the greats like David chiming in for no reason.

Its very apparent you guys have a hard on for the Uamcc. I know Ron wants his money back, etc. But one minute you guys bury the hatchet and move on, and then you drag it all up again.


And BTW, I am NOT a uamcc member...

Its like Palestine and Israel. They hate each other, but they coexist.

Russ, Ron, whoever...delete my acct. Actually I will try and do it myself. This is f'ing ridiculous.
don Im sorry you feel that way ..I noticed a while back you jumping on a well respected member on another board you were whining for 3-6 pages someone might have copy a couple of sentences (common words)(no pictures just common words) from your website...it ended up hurting his reputation (and instead of being a man and calling that person you chose to humilate him in public on the forum) that was was f'ing ridiculous as well and you went on and on

this isnt about umacc its about smearing people and taking cheap shots at pwi
as far as me chiming in on a subject I guess I'm proud of pwi ...is that a bad thing?
 
Dang, I am still trying to get over the fact that I am not a decent businessman because I frequent the boards.

Just an opinion, we all need to give it a rest. From everything I have seen, the UAMCC is not going to effect my business one whit in the near future, and I doubt that it will effect my business in the future.

Years ago, there was a guy named Lance Winslow, the guy who founded the Carwashguys. He talked to me like a dutch uncle to get me to buy one of his franchises, even though I already had an established business. I actually have an email that said that he was going to bury me, that I would not last a year, after he landed in the Phoenix area, and got established. From what I remember, he sold at least 6 franchises in the metro Phoenix area. I worried about them, and then went to work. It seems that Lance got dinged by the Fed's for fraud(1). He ended up having to shut down his little empire. Some of his franchisees lasted a year or two, but as far as I know, he does not have one single franchisee out of the 100 or so that he sold, that is still in existence. He did not effect me, and what I do. Fleetwash has not really effected me for all intents and purposes, though they have actually gotten two of my accounts in the 12 years they have been here, and lots of others that have made personal attacks on me, and my business, have not had a significant effect on me, or on my business. I am looking at the UAMCC in the same light. I have not seen anything delivered that was promised, and touted, and have not seen them accomplish anything that has been a positive in the industry. That being the case, they really are a non-entity to me at this time.
I wish them them luck, but judging from what I am currently seeing, the divisiveness that they started by banning Ron, and the obvious intent to make it an exclusive organization, I really do not see how it can succeed. (2)

(1) There is no intent by me to say that the UAMCC is involved in fraudulent activities. It is just an example.
(2) Anytime an effort is made to exclude a person, or group of people, it is the very definition of exclusion. Since I heard statements while I was on the Transition team that one of the main objects was to make sure Ron was excluded, I feel very comfortable in stating that there was an intent to make it an exclusive organization, in every negative context of the word.
 
That is an easy question to answer... It is because they have way too much free time. You dont see anyone asking what (or worrying about) the Tax Status of NCE or PWNC.

Both PRIVATE entities - never have indicated that they would ever be a not-for profit....SAME AS NYPWC
 
Both PRIVATE entities - never have indicated that they would ever be a not-for profit....SAME AS NYPWC


Matthew doesn't understand the difference Celeste. I'm not sure any of them do. This has been repeated over and over again, yet the comparisons continue as if we never addressed it.
 
That is an easy question to answer... It is because they have way too much free time. You dont see anyone asking what (or worrying about) the Tax Status of NCE or PWNC.

NCE is a private Business...

Are you asking about my private business or is the UAMCC private and we shouldnt ask?

I donated money, I need a receipt for my taxes.
 
Haven't seen you posting here in a while Thad or Mathew, you both been gone for a long time or just lurking in the shadows? hahahahaha
 
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