Lets Talk Vac surface cleaner..

JohnB

JohnB

JohnB
What happens if you take a 1 1/2 inch vac hose and adapt it down to say a 1/2 inch hose with lots of cut out grooves in it all the way around the surface cleaner ... ( I don't know but I will try it tomorrow.) But for now here is a photo... Ok everybody tell me it's not going to work >>> Go ahead.. I have other ideas ... So don't be shy... I will probably get ticked off but I will get over it...

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You have the right idea John. The biggest problem I see, is the restriction caused by only one port on the vacuum ring. Try using a Y to split the vacuum to each side of the surface cleaner, and keep the port from the vacuum ring as large in diameter as possible. Remember, volume moves mass. With that said, the biggest problem I think you will face is the lack of CFM provided by your wet vac.
 
Yep your right
Here are the specs on the vac
Amperage : 12.0 Amps
Assembled Depth (In Inches) : 19.87 In.
Assembled Height (In Inches) : 25.37 In.
Assembled Weight (In LBS) : 35.5
Assembled Width (In Inches) : 19.87 In.
Automatic Shut-off : No
Built-In Accessory Storage : Yes
Built-In Drain : Yes
Capacity : 16 Gals.
Caster-Rolling System : Yes
CircleEFriendly : False
Cord Length : 20 Ft.
Cubic Feet Per Minute (CFM) : 187 CFM
Energy Star Compliant : False
EnergyPlus : False
Filter Type : Pleated Paper
Height : 25.8 In.
Hose Length (Feet) : 7 Ft.
Motor Type : Universal
Peak Horsepower : 6.5 HP
Static Pressure : 51 In.
Voltage : 120 Volts
Weight : 26.3 Lbs.
Wet / Dry : Yes

Now I have got to add another T in Line BRB
 
First Attempt Sort of and it did pick up a little water but not much

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Versus a professionally designed version at 5.5 gpm.

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The hoses and ports on top are too small. You need the extra size, because you need to move more air. How about figuring a way of attaching some rectangular tubing that is a little larger getting some air moving through that thing.
 
Ok here is the Idea .. I am thinking of Moving the 1/2inch pipe from the inside of the surface cleaner and go to a 1 inch around the outside of the surface cleaner and then add some squeege material.. Now a real easy solution would be to mount 2 squeeges in a V shape on the back of the surface cleaner and mount the wet vac nozzle in the center of the V shape but you would not be able to go side to side just foward... More work coming tommorrow..
 
Ok this morning I have gone outside to strip the surface cleaner of the inside 1/2 inch ring that did not seem to work ..I plan to attach a 2 actual wet vac squeege attachments to the back in a V-Shape.. I have hooked as many as 3 14" squeege attachments together before to make a homemade water boom and it worked great.. I also have looked at so carpet extractor wet vacs that offer a high lift and move about 117cfm.. So I am gonna try this homemade thing again.. The reason I am building my own is
1} it's just me
2} I may be a little crazy
3} I may be a little broke
4} I only have 2 accounts that I'll use this on...
 
I was thinking the same thing. What if you put the flange towards the center and put the squeegee material around the outside of the surface cleaner. That should give it a tight seal to pull from. ?????
 
Ok I went to a 1 1/4 inch and 1 inch around the outside of the surface cleaner.. I have to extend the back wheels a little bit.. And this time I have 3 1 1/4 inch ports .. The Glue is drying and then I will move my back casters back about an inch so they will swivel.. Now Volume should not be a problem..I am going to bring the ring inside to cut the suction grooves in the plastic.. If this works it will be a floting ring around the outside of the surface cleaner.. More Later
 
What you guys are missing is the double shell design that a manufactured vac surface cleaner has.
After using one I feel confident I could have one built,but since steel eagle and mosmatic have already done it i see no sense.
Yes I might save a few hundred bucks,however,I'm fairly sure getting someone else to build something to meet my spec and have it work properly aren't worth the money I would save.
 
Did you say a few hundred bucks saved .. Hmmm thats a truck note...
Plus I am doing this because Someone ( competitor/Friend) told me I couldnt make it work..Plus when you service an account with something you built , customers are like " Hey did you build that " and you are like YES I DID.... and they are like " wow dude your are THE MAN. !!!!!!
Then I walk around proud of myself all day...:rolleyes:
 
Squirtgun said:
What you guys are missing is the double shell design that a manufactured vac surface cleaner has.
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The HydroTek uses a tube, probably 1 1/4" in a donut shape around the perineter with slits cut into it. Comes through the deck 2"
 
oK Mine comes up by the deck at about 1 1/4 inch and 1" tube around the outside and it is ugly as sin.. But OMG it works.. I am calling this my donut floater vac.. Because as you push the surface cleaner the vac ring floats on the ground on the outside of the surface cleaner.. I hooked up the ring and it will actually pick up dirt off the ground.. I have not tried it yet with water but we will see..When I get this to work I will still have only spent about 1/2 of what one real one cost.. And hopefully just like my homemade surface cleaner it will work better than a real Mexico manufactured one.
 
Come on John, where are the pics and video??????

Let's see that thing work.
 
Tommorrow after church I am going to put the finishing touches on it and then we will see if it works .. If not I am going to have a whole shell built .. Actually a shell inside a shell and try this idea.. Also I could try the 1 1/4 tubing all the way around but I believe the actual ( pro unit ) looks like a 1 inch tube.. I might be wrong.. If this works I plan on getting and modifying a small grocery cart so that the wet vac will ride on board along with a surface cleaner head.. Now this will be really cool..keep your fingers crossed for the test run tommorrow...
 
Scott: Last I knew you could not buy Mosmatic vac version in th US is this not true, if so where do you purchase them.Thanks DH

Squirtgun said:
What you guys are missing is the double shell design that a manufactured vac surface cleaner has.
After using one I feel confident I could have one built,but since steel eagle and mosmatic have already done it i see no sense.
Yes I might save a few hundred bucks,however,I'm fairly sure getting someone else to build something to meet my spec and have it work properly aren't worth the money I would save.
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