Wal-Mart got in trouble.

So when you guys clean the walmart and use upwards of 1000 gallons of water and you have to reclaim it , where are you going to store it on your trailer? Are you going to have 3 500 gallon tanks on your trailer? Its gonna take a flatbed trailer and one heavy duty truck to pull that around........
 
Ron Musgraves said:
Solid waste handler has license to carry it. thats what they do.
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The eviro companys here have there equipment on two flatbed tractor trailer rigs. its all about 1/5 mil in just equipment. the truck are peterbuilt and probably cost another 1/4 mil for both.

legally and responsibly thats the only way it can be done.
 
I thought the Wal-Mart RFP stated that all water had to be removed from the site. I'll have to look back through it but I thought recycling water was not an option.
 
Doug Dahlke said:
I thought the Wal-Mart RFP stated that all water had to be removed from the site. I'll have to look back through it but I thought recycling water was not an option.
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Your right it doesn't mention anything about recycling, but that doesn't mean you can't do it.

It does state they wish to see a report about the water your disposing of and the fees you are charged...well if you are recylcling filtered water you won't need to dispose of anything, just the filter media. Now the filter media is the only question to contend with...I'm sure there is something out there to handle dirt, gum, coffee, soda, vomit, oil, gas, any other thing that may be found on a walmart entry way or cart.

BUT needing to utilize hot water you aren't supposed to let that enter storm drains....hence another reason to reclaim.

It seems very apparent they want to protect themselves in the end but NOTHING is impossible if you think about it....well maybe a chicken laying a hard boiled egg.
 
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I called the lady at WalMart and acutally spoke with her over the phone. She stated that filtering the water is allowed. I told her all of my concerns about the reclaiming, filtering, discharging and everything else I could think of. She simply stated that they will reevaluate the program after 1 year and then make a decision concerning discharging onsite.
 
Calling them is a great idea if you have questions about the whole thing.

I spoke with Victorio Angulo (Head of the project) and he said to bid it as proposed and advise them of any concerns and they will evaluate accordingly....PA-a southern state?? I wish...according to their proposal, no cleaning when daily low is below 32....well we did have a "freak week" but working on 20 days plus below...
 
russ s said:
i know what to call them ..... hahahaha
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Me too..... CHEAP They are looking for folks to take on entire States in order to get a volume discount. I talked to the guy here that cleans 4 Wal-Marts here locally.... He didn't even get an RFP.

And, in case no one has really noticed, this is a RFP!!! Not a bid. They don't even have to award a contract at all. This is a way for them to guage what is out there. They may just continue to use local, smaller guys instead of deal with the hassle of all this. I'd venture to say that this is a big educational proccess for them in order to set a standard for the local contractors to abide by or they will develop a way to do it in house. Using our industry to educate them as to how to do it.

With each call they get, they learn a little more about Best Practices.
 
Have any of you guys around Atlanta, cleaned any wal-marts on a regular basis?
What did they require about all the insurance you had to carry and did they require you to reclaim even though they have ON-SITE sewage system, do they want you dump in their system?
 
Scott Stone said:
WRONG!!! Want to see EVERY one of my contracts?
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Who exempt when, where,and why is too dang confusing. Seems easy enough that all are equal whether fed, state, or local no matter where yer at but apparently that can't be the case. Example I can site is that for years the walks of our downtown mall area get washed regular with the river just stones throw away...Anyone else got this going on? Anyone say why it apparently ok for a city to run a wash program with no recovery in a metro area covering at least a couple block? Maybe they said why and I missed it somewheres. Highly doubt all them street gutters go to the sewer.
Maybe my city is bucking the system against the CWA?.. Wouldn't doubt it. Current thing of controversey they doing is they plan to take a whole bunch building in that same area from this businessman under eminant domain BS as their in luv with another developer. Is stupid....they gonna subsidize the new guy but not the current owner which happens to be an immigrant.
 
There was a comment in this thread about "throwing the filter socks in the trash bin" and about the trash companies being licensed to haul it. You may want to check with the company on that or better yet the local service center to see who handles their parts washer chemicals and waste oil recovery. The items you are talking about tossing in the bin may fall under the category of "special waste". I only say that because I work for a local hauler and researched my options down here. It will cost me $400 to loose two 55 gallon drums of sludge from a recycling unit through a company called Safety Kleen. And that is better than my chances and cost for "profiling" it to have it hauled by my employer. I know this is an old thread, but I thought it might bear stating.
 
can't you just open up a valve while driving down the highway?
 
That was a joke right? You do know it will go into a stormwater runoff and then to either Wastewater Treatment Plant or work its way into "Waters of the United States"? Dumping into the sewer system down here without a permit is $1,000 fine and up to 60 days in jail. Clean Water Act penalties are a bit harsher.
 
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